Those Pesky Outdoor Bosses

Kerulak · 04/11/06, 1:18 PM

We're considering starting to make serious attempts at the outdoor bosses now. Is Azuregos and Kazzak significantly easier than the four greens? What's a good one to start focusing in on? Which do you guys have a lot of fun doing (Enjoyment / Loot Quality)?

Kytrarewn · 04/11/06, 1:25 PM

Kazzak is probably the easiest raid encounter I've ever seen in this game. Tank, Spank, Heal, collect epics. Seriously, easier than Lucifron.

Azuregos is slightly more difficult, in that you can't use HoTs or DoTs for fear of pulling aggro when he teleports. Long fight, in which the biggest issues are A. making sure you stay alive yourself, B. You don't pull aggro, and C. You don't fall asleep.

Green dragons seem substantially more difficult, though we haven't gotten any kills (and very few attempts) in yet or had much practice on them. I'll let someone else comment on those.

Ghostz · 04/11/06, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kerulak,April 11th, 2006 @ 12:18PM

We're considering starting to make serious attempts at the outdoor bosses now. Is Azuregos and Kazzak significantly easier than the four greens? What's a good one to start focusing in on? Which do you guys have a lot of fun doing (Enjoyment / Loot Quality)?

Azuregos is the easiest non-gear dependant outdoor raid boss imo.
Ysondre comes close if your MT has a decent amount of nature res gear.

From there on its probably Kazzak, Emeriss, Taerar, Lethon from easiest to hardest.

Kaubel · 04/11/06, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kytrarewn,April 11th, 2006 @ 11:25AM

Kazzak is probably the easiest raid encounter I've ever seen in this game. Tank, Spank, Heal, collect epics. Seriously, easier than Lucifron.

Yes, I distinctly remember guilds on every server killing him the day he started spawning.

diospadre · 04/11/06, 1:54 PM

Azuregos is the hardest boss in the game

Kalman · 04/11/06, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by diospadre,April 11th, 2006 @ 12:54PM

Azuregos is the most annoying boss in the game

But, anyway.

Kazzak is dead easy. A 4 AM PUG of 20 people, half of whom were idiots, managed to kill him via the simple expedient of having 4 competent DPS, 2 competent healers, and a decent MT.

Azuregos is also simple, just long and annoying.

Ysondre is easy if the MT has good nature resist.

Taerar is chaotic, even with fear ward.

No experience with Lethon or Emeriss, so I'll let others speak to them.

Kazzak < Ysondre (MT with NR) <= Azuregos < Ysondre (MT without NR, tank rotation required) < Taerar/Lethon/Emeriss

Brilliance · 04/11/06, 2:51 PM

From Easiest To Hardes (IMO)-

-The Current "LoL We 12 Manned Kazzak For Gold" (Dont confuse with the first Kazzak, he fucking raped face)
-Azuregos, Just dont suck.
-Ysonder, aka free loot dragon.
-Lethon (The new fixed 1 shade lol 3 second stun one)
-Toss up between Emeriss/Taerar. You fuck up on either ones trigger and your >>fucked<<

Louie · 04/11/06, 2:56 PM

It is my uninformed opinion that Emeriss is a lot of fun. The fight keeps you on your toes and demands top-notch execution.

subscience · 04/11/06, 2:57 PM

In before Hogger post.

Twid · 04/11/06, 3:01 PM

Originally Posted by Louie,April 11th, 2006 @ 1:56PM

It is my uninformed opinion that Emeriss is a lot of fun. The fight keeps you on your toes and demands top-notch execution.

And demands people who aren't too cheap to buy consumables... :angry:

I swear I'm going to do an /raitem for all the healing items and if they don't have them for Emeriss, I politely ask them to go to felwood instead.

Hellmount · 04/11/06, 3:04 PM

Kazzak and Azuregos are by far the easiest with Kazak being the easiest. If you want to start the green dragons, as people have said get your tanks farming mauradon and baron strat for NR. Of the dragons Ysondre is by far the easiest, and I would say emeriss the hardest. I would say emeriss is teh hardest because we play on a PvP server where people really like to grief your emeriss attempts. On a side note girefing on emeriss is almost more fun then griefing the old kazzak.

♦ Praetorian · 04/11/06, 3:05 PM

Agreed on the toss-up between Emeriss and Taerar for "hardest."

On the one hand, you can zerg Taerar -- with enough manpower he's trivial even if you're sloppy. Excess manpower on Emeriss is a bad idea.

On the other hand, you can do Emeriss with <20 people with ease, whereas I wouldn't feel too good about bringing a tiny group with a shortage of tanks to fight Taerar.

Toros · 04/11/06, 3:39 PM

Originally Posted by diospadre,April 11th, 2006 @ 11:54AM

Azuregos is the hardest boss in the game

Only when I'm tanking.

The Jesus Fish · 04/11/06, 3:48 PM

Originally Posted by Toros,April 11th, 2006 @ 1:39PM

Originally Posted by diospadre,April 11th, 2006 @ 11:54AM

Azuregos is the hardest boss in the game

Only when I'm tanking.

Oh... "Tanking"....

That's what you call that?

Drauk · 04/11/06, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian,April 11th, 2006 @ 2:05PM

Agreed on the toss-up between Emeriss and Taerar for "hardest."

Seriosly ? In my experience Lethon is hardest of all, and Taerar is a pushover, being slightly above Ysondre.

Only my guild has killed "old" Lethon on the server, and all raiding guilds killed at least Ysonder and Taerar.