Hello guys.

In a few nights of practice on C'thun I've noticed that some of the combos
(like 2 non linked eye beams that hit me in few seconds, added to a tick of mind flay)
kill me no matter what I do or anyone else in the raid does (The healers can't react fast enough).

These combos hit me pretty often.. perhaps once every 2-3 tries, and it's starting to feel really frustrating.

Potions help sometimes, but not nearly often enough to make it feel "safe".

Should I start gathering a lot more stamina gear or bring my nature resistance set, or is there some other way around that? Or is it just me having terribly bad luck?
I'm a rogue btw.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

You mean that Eye hit you with 2 beams in a row ?

You really can't avoid him eye blasting you two times in a row, it's just shitty when it happens. If your healers can't react fast enough, then just bring some consumables and pop one right after he hits you the first time, then if he targets you again use it.

No. Contrary to speculation, there are no unavoidable deaths on C'Thun. Sometimes a death may be personally unavoidable to you because some other idiot gets you killed or other people in your raid let you down, but that's different.

Take the back-to-back beam scenario. C'Thun targets you before he beams you. It takes 2 seconds to cast. Then he targets you again, and takes 2 more seconds to cast. A good healer will have a heal going before the first beam even hits you, let alone the second. A good healer will have you shielded before the second beam hits, or will NS heal you if he sees that C'Thun is about to beam someone who is low enough on health that the beam is likely to be fatal. "Our healers can't react fast enough" isn't an unavoidable death. [Edit: As Holland said, if you can't trust your healers, bring emergency consumables for those situations. Either NR pots, or get a healthstone beforehand so you can pop that and a tuber or something if you know you're about to die. BTW, if you vanished while C'Thun was casting an eye beam at you, would it still hit you?]

Your raid organization should make sure that the small tentacles are dying such that they aren't causing sufficient mindflay damage to allow the beam to one-shot other people. And so forth.

Every single death is preventable in some way. Even the "omg a claw ruptured me into the glare" deaths.

That's one advantage of being a healer. As soon as I get my audible aggro warning, I start casting regrowth on myself. It lands right after the beam hits and allows me to survive a second beam should one come my way.

Um, last week we had a pretty much perfect phase one and still had someone die to, from what I recall, a Claw Tentacle popping up and throwing them into dark glare. That's avoidable to an extent, but it's hardly a stupid mistake, and it happened to one of the people who doesn't dumbly stare into an oncoming dark glare. As I recall, you said it was pretty much unavoidable at the time.

Sure, USUALLY we have two or so deaths due to people standing still like idiots to get that last heal off before running, but I still think with perfect execution you're going to end up with someone randomly getting owned by the various factors.

Nitpicking: Eye starts charging Glare in your direction, you start running, just as you get ~10-20y away you get claw ruptured back to beam start location. How is this avoidable? Sure, it's a really rare situation, but it is possible.


(Actually, it may be theoretically avoidable by making sure you don't run across a player's former position. Screw you Gurg, be wrong for once)

I generally start moving well before he starts actually charging Glare because it's possible to predict it a bit before then. If I'm in the NE, and he's going to Glare on the NE, I can usually be in the NW corner by the time the Glare actually starts. A Claw knockback wouldn't put me in danger.

Two Claw knockbacks would, but if that happens it's because my raid isn't doing what it should be in other ways, and thus goes back into the "avoidable" column.

I love this encounter for the aforementioned reasons. It truly spotlights the retards in your guild. C'thun is the Hemingway of WoW -- he burns the fat from your souls and the retards from your raids.

I made a decent chunk of change taking bets on who would be the first to die in phase one during the last week or so of C'Thun attempts.

Your healers need to get better. I love the C'Thun fight because my total responsibility is to the people in my party. It's my job to keep those four other people alive during phase one, that's it. I can help out with the other groups left and right of me, but the rest of the raid is out of range and have their own healers.

I constantly keep C'Thun targetted during the fight and watch who he's targetting. If its someone in my party I start a heal immediately on them. If its a low HP class (mage for example) I usually shield, then heal in case of a double beam.

I've been triple beamed myself (we've done phase one, many many times) and kept myself up through it. I've only lost a mage to a double beam once and that's because I screwed up, not him.

Tell your healers that all they have to do is keep the four other people in their party up. If of them die to a non-linked beam, its the healer's fault for that death.

It's your job to make sure your ass isn't near anyone else's. :) No healer can keep you up through a beam that's bounced twice.