[top] the mage crits 15% of his attacks against the shaman.

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A mage got 20% crit chance. A shaman got 5% less crit from resilience .
mr Mage throws 10,000 bolts. 2,000 should crit. of these 2000 bolts 5% is removed

Second time I've seen this - this time, I wasn't even physically crit'd.
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e4epg2.png


Lines of interest from screenshot above:
"Bladespire Enforcer's Thunderclap hits you for 215 Nature damage.
Your Eye for an Eye crits Bladespire Enforcer for 106 Holy damage."


Eye for an Eye, Paladin Ret talent:
"All spell criticals against you cause cause 15/30% of the damage taken to the caster as well ..."


This might have something to do with it:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

"Any effect which benefits the victim of a critical strike will now trigger even if resilience converted the attack from a critical strike to a normal strike; this applies to melee, ranged, and spell. The affected talents, abilities, and items are: "Eye for an Eye", "Blessed Resilience", "Enrage", "Martyrdom", "Blood Craze", "Eye of the Storm", and "Bonespike Shoulder"."


My current soloing gear has 20~30 points of resilience. Seems like Resilience may be interacting strangely with talents that activate on crits?

I have a question - at 25% block rating, with SB up my block is "100%".

At less than that though, at say, 24% block rating, my SB with SB up is "99%".

My question is, is that other 1% part of the dice still from defense and misses and dodge/parrys/etc?

What happens that other 1% of the time?

Essentially, what % block do I need as a base to be "uncrushable" with SB up.
I want to know this since I'm planning on dipping below 25% with some of my gear-sets.

I've heard that the dice protects a naked protection warrior from all crushing blows, even if their block % is like 20ish.

Let me elaborate more. The theory being formed is that total avoidance = 100% is what is required to push off a crushing blow, because all melee outcomes are rolled on the same die. If that were true, when you got UBS'd, and were now succeptable to being crit, your melee avoidance >= 100%(yes the defense hit would hurt your avoidance, but you'd still be above 25% total easy) would then prevent a crit from happening due to block/dodge/parry all being above it on the melee roll prioritzation.

I am almost 100% positive there are 2 rolls happening. First is a roll to check the melee outcome(avoid>crit>hit) and then a second roll, in which the values are filled by x block %, 15 crush, and y hit.

If a roll is a crit or avoided, the 2nd die is ignored. It is not far fetched at all, and definitely supports the theories of all those warriors out there with 24% block, that still see the very rare crushing with shield block up. Perhaps client->server lag is playing a much larger role than I give it credit for in that matter though =/

Edit for theory on ways to definitively answer: Perhaps we could go back to a "boss" mob that we have no serious risk of dying to to test. If our suggested melee priorities are correct(which if they aren't could surely be the reason for our disconnects in theory) could we not parse a combat log where shield block was purposely never used, so we always had an identical avoidance %? From this we could then ascertain a predictable Crush% by:

(Total unavoided [dodge block parry or miss] swings @ tank) - (Hits [non crushing, non blocked] ) / crushing hits = % crushing blows.

Unless you have a very large amount of avoidance( higher than 85%) we should be left with the expected value of 15% crushing blows, because crit has been elimited through defense, leaving crushing still on the table. If you do happen to have extra avoidance, it will subtract a predictable amount from crushing, which can be recalculated(86% avoidance = 14% expected crushing blows).

Let's assume a tank with 20 dodge, 15 parry, 20 block, and 490 defense. This gives us 66.6%(after adding 5.6% defense miss, and 5% innate). Our expected numbers should then be 18.4% hit, 15% crushing. To get a raw number for comparison with the next test we'll assume 1000 attacks, giving us 150 crushing blows.

My hypothesis is that the die roll happens twice. Removing block for my theory, we now have 20 dodge, 15 parry, 10.6% miss(assuming 490def). 45.6% of attacks will be avoided completely, leaving 54.4 to follow through to the 2nd die roll. This die now has the values block, crushing, and hit, in that order of priority. Of our 1000 assumed attacks, we have avoided 456. This is split into 20% block(108.8) 15% crushing(81.6) and 65% hits(353.6).

Single die = 150 crushing blows.
Double die = 81.6.

Taking the amount of hits required to be conclusive would require a lot of time invested, or multiple people parsing tests. As long as you are below 85% avoidance(counting 5% innate mob miss, and miss from defense)

If any of this theorizing is incorrect feel free to point it out quickly(as if I had to give permission). I typed this up in my before bed time forum trolling, and could easily have overlooked something extremely important, obvious, or both in my tired stupor.