Combat Mechanics, 3.0 - Page 16

• Arawethion · 04/11/07, 2:18 AM

Originally Posted by Liand

It's a recently uncovered problem (http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10719). Basically, you can't block when you put away your shield.

It's not that recently uncovered--I remember some knowledgeable person (Kenco?) mentioning it on this forum a very long time ago. It's just more talked-about now because of Paladins.

• Arawethion · 04/11/07, 2:19 AM

Originally Posted by Pater

I seem to be reading in other threads in this forum that there is now debate about whether there is truly a one-roll system, or if it's two-roll for special attacks (or perhaps I'm misunderstanding the debate). Can someone give a quick summary of the status on that?

Believe someone discovered a while back, testing with a Rogue, that specials are on a two-roll system while white hits are on a single-roll. I don't of any detailed tests for ranged or spell.

Pater · 04/11/07, 2:32 AM

So 2-roll means that first it has to hit, then it crits? i.e., for a player, using the conventions from post #1 here:

"roll 1" considers only M, P, D, B, and (C+H) is the residual (because players cannot crush, nor can we glance specials)

Then, if it's (C+H) then "roll 2" is
0% through C% = crit
C% through 100% = hit

Is that correct?

panny · 04/11/07, 4:27 AM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

It's not that recently uncovered--I remember some knowledgeable person (Kenco?) mentioning it on this forum a very long time ago. It's just more talked-about now because of Paladins.

Yes, that's one of the reasons why no one takes Shield Spec for Shaman. Caster Shaman are pretty much the only type who use shields, but it's worthless since anything but auto-attack will prevent you from blocking.

alienangel · 04/11/07, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

C. Rage/Energy Generation
1 Rage generated per 30 damage dealt
1 Rage generated per 90 damage taken

Is that bit in the original post still correct? I thought rage normalization was more complicated than this.

• Arawethion · 04/11/07, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by alienangel

Is that bit in the original post still correct? I thought rage normalization was more complicated than this.

No, it's out of date. I stuck a note at the beginning of the OP about how old it is.

EDIT: Ok, well, I tried to, but it won't let me, because the post is too long.

alienangel · 04/11/07, 3:41 PM

edit: removed, wowwiki no longer out of service