Are you sure about this? The original question itnerests me...It might mean having a much slower weapon might be beneficial (for say a paladin tanking weapon who doesnt rely on speed for heroic strike).

Anyone know about this?

Well, if you exceed 2.0 speed you'd be missing out on reckoning charges, right? But if missing one charge is irrelevant in a certain scenario, and you're dealing with a really hard hitting mob, then it definetaly gets interesting.

I've done extensive testing on the 'mob parries increases its attack speed' in the past, and have found that yes, it does work in exactly the same way as with players.

By constructing a simple mod that filters out parries and the mobs swing speed, using time stamps, i could see that their attack speed increased markedly. It came to the point in Naxx where i (as MT) would die, and look back through my combat log and go "hit hit crushing *Parried attack* hit" and that last, faster hit would be enough burst damage to kill me.

It got to the point where i effectively banned people from attacking the boss from the front (and even on patchwerk hunters had to position themselves so that when they sent their pet in, it attacked from behind.)

Based on the quote from a CM that states how weapon skill drastically reduces the chance to be parried by an enemy, consider the following scenario.

With enough +skill to totally negate the enemy's chance of parrying you, you in turn prevent the enemy from resetting its swing as a result of parrying your attack, which would decrease its auto attack damage by say 5% over the fight (from the tanks attacks)?

Would take 25 weapon skill with the numbers he gave us (0.6% parry reduced per skill and boss mobs appear to have ~15% parry rate).

25 Weapon Skill would also remove 2.5% dodge and 5% miss so thats not too bad and would only take 97.5 Weapon Skill Rating.

Basically if Blizzard was to itemize weapon skill across a variety of item pieces instead of only here and there it would be easy to hit.

I mean if a druid wants they can reach +84 Feral Combat Skill Rating. Only problem the only tanking item its actually itemized is the Earthwarden which you hopefully can replace with the SSC staff as fast as possible.

Edit: Its important to stop those parries not because it reduces damage by 5% because it drastically increases the burst/spike damage on the tank.

I was tanking Fathomlord the other day and noticed that i received a crushing blow with shield block up. My base block % was at around 24% so up to 99% with shield block active. I also had around 15% dodge/parry. I guess the only things that i can conclude from this are either block/crushing and parry/dodge are on different rolls, or that there was something a bit buggy going on (as my shield block wore off a split second after the crush according to my logs). I managed to get a screenshot of it as well

How close are we talking here? Is it possible that SB just got misordered in the combat log? Did you scan up and check to see if that was really 3rd hit in 5 seconds possibly?

If you're getting crushed through SB that's certainly interesting (though some of the old rules -do- seem to be gone...) but I know I'm pretty curious about it.

Were you drinking a pot at this moment?

I could well have been, but ive got no way of knowing. I never knew that drinking pots messed up your defenses O_o. Always thought it was just an animation

It's a recently uncovered problem ([Paladin] Crush immunity related bug. Basically, you can't block when you put away your shield.

I seem to be reading in other threads in this forum that there is now debate about whether there is truly a one-roll system, or if it's two-roll for special attacks (or perhaps I'm misunderstanding the debate). Can someone give a quick summary of the status on that?