I am dumb for posting a chat log.

By Taunt in the Prot Tree, there is a new talent that gives 10% more stamina (This talent has been removed).

Based on player feedback, the devs did a little more adjusting to Shield Slam.

The newest version will do more base damage, and increase damage based on shield block value rather than attack power. The rank 4 version does 342 to 358 damage plus the value that the shield blocks for.

Great changes!

Nice to see you respecting the man's wishes.

While everyone loves to read chatlogs, you should probably not post them if they have someone saying "waiting to release" in them.

Shrug, it seems the Warrior forum already had a post on it yesterday.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post1000067

Since you need the dots connected. Don't post private convos.. Yes IRC Is private.

Don't post private IRC chat logs here, ever. Future offenses will get you a ban.

Anyway, yeah, there's a new tier 4 prot talent (commented on already by other people who checked out the warrior talent trees at E3) that's a 5pt talent, each rank is +2% sta. Sure makes going past 15-17 prot a whole lot more attractive.

I wonder if they are doing this to balance things out a bit stamina wise with BoK. Although alliance will still have that advantage it gives the Horde some more leeway when it comes to fights that require such high stamina such as Twin Emps. I know our tanks will love this new talent.

I would murder kittens for a +10-15% Str talent.

to keep it like Lightning Reflexes (15% more agility) it's have to be iter 4 or 5, and is there even room for that?

Awesome another thread degenerates into druid bullshit after 4 posts.

Bleh, Warriors needed to be harder to kill? ;(

Im still trying to figure out the proper wording so I can compare it to swiftmend.

I won't lie, I'm having a little trouble.

That extra stamina would be pretty sweet. But I don't think I would be able to give up either Mortal Strike or Cruelty for it. :(

Also, it makes me wonder how long it will take for Om to break 8K HP unbuffed!

I would spec back to protection in a heartbeat for this talent :x Given the stats that seem to be coming out from the Tier 3 sets, plus 10% health? Not too long, really.

The Prodigal Om has returned.

I wonder if Crauch will go 31/20 now. It will certainly help his "Rogue Hitpoints" problem.

Uhh no

Fury/Prot is the new yellow.

Fury/Prot will still be dumb, even with the stamina talent.

/shrug, I've never liked yellow.

The real question is whether 31/20 is now more worth it than 31/5(4)/15(16).

10% stamina is huge, and is definitely something I could see guilds requiring a few warriors to have, and Blizzard basing their encounters around, which goes against their previous philosophy.

Considering how casually BoK is tacked on to Alliance raids and the comments made by Tigole in the NYT interview, I doubt 10% more hp is something that they view as either raid-required or worthy of retuning encounters. Titan Flasks don't influence encounter design, even at the pve highend.

At this point I've more or less resigned myself to the futility of using logic to try and draw conclusions out of numbers and raid design. Screw it. Until it's demonstrably unbeatable I've given up the right to complain about equal-opportunity min/maxing.

(The above has nothing to do with shammy/pally balance. No lynching, please.)