Bonescythe Jubilation Station (full revamped stats in first post)

• Wodin · 05/11/06, 11:25 AM

New Base stats(:wub: everyone):
Helm: 18 str 30 agi 29 sta, 1% hit 2%crit
Shoulders: 22 str 22 Agi 15 sta 1% hit 1% crit
Gloves: 66 AP 20 sta 1% hit 1% crit
Boots: 64 AP 18 sta 1% hit 1% crit
Belt: 23 str 24 agi 20 sta 1% crit
Leggings: 31 str 32 agi 25 sta 1% hit 1% crit (These may be wrong)
Chestpiece: (80AP 2%crit 1% hit 29sta)
Bracers: 26agi 16sta 1%crit (added 2 agi from old version).
Ring: 30agi 10sta 1% hit

ROGUE
(2): Your normal melee swings have a chance to Invigorate you, healing you for 90 to 110.
(4): Your Backstab, Sinister Strike, and Hemmorrhage critical hits cause you to regain 5 energy.
(6): Reduces the threat from your Backstab, Sinister Strike, Hemmorrhage and Eviscerate abilities.
(8): Your Eviscerate has a chance per combo point to reveal a flaw in your opponent's armor, granting a 100% critical hit chance for your next Backstab, Sinister Strike, or Hemmorrhage.

No real need to run math here - every single piece butchers other itemization with the exception of the chest, and the chest is still damn nice. Thanks to the itemizers who changed things up. :)

Old stuff for posterity since the strikethrough tag doesn't work.

Old Base stats(:wub: Chalon): 
Helm - 18 str 31 agi 30 sta 1% hit 2% crit
Shoulders - 25 agi 24 sta 1% crit 1% hit
Chest - 48 agi 28sta 1% crit 1% hit
Bracers - 24 agi 14 sta 1% crit
Gloves - 11 str 29 agi 22 sta 1% hit
Belt - 18 str 24 agi 23 sta 1% hit
Legs - 43 agi 26 sta 2% hit
Boots - 31 agi 19 sta 1% hit
Ring - 30 agi 10 sta 1% hit

Old Ilvl data:

I used the current Hyzenthlei formula and made sure that the ilvl completely encompasses the stats on the item. No rounding down here. 

Helm - 92
Shoulders - 83
Chest - 89
Bracers - 89
Gloves - 83
Belt - 85
Legs - 82  
Boots - 76 (yes I doublechecked)
Ring - 90

More coming soon!

Louie · 05/11/06, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Wodin

exploit

I'm telling Tigole.

Falcon24 · 05/11/06, 11:35 AM

Can I appreciate it too despite not being a rogue

Tower · 05/11/06, 11:42 AM

Certainly makes dagger builds extremely interesting in regards to energy efficiency. With Imp Backstab having a "built in" benefit in relation to the 4 set bonus in a build with Dagger Spec and depending on the % per combo point value for the 8 piece... we'll, playing a rogue might just start to feel like playing a well-geared Fury Warrior. IE "omgz I'm doin mor dmg omg NOW IM DOIN EVN MORE DEEPIES" unto infinity.

Gozul · 05/11/06, 11:43 AM

Hemo and Seal Fate ftw

Jo_ · 05/11/06, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Wodin

I used the current Hyzenthlei formula and made sure that the ilvl completely encompasses the stats on the item. No rounding down here.

didn't Hyzenthlei say in that epic post the ilvl formula didn't translate to tier sets (probably due to set bonuses getting weighed in there somewhere)? Not sure which direction this post is going though so making the reservation that this might be irrelevant to the points you are gonna make.

Silverblood · 05/11/06, 11:48 AM

Looking foward to the math for the bonuses. Hoping the set doesnt look like ass on troll though =\. Maybe with the 1.12 rogue tweaks/changes there will be another viable dagger build for endgame dps. I switch between Sealfate and Combat Daggers whenever I get the urge to pvp. Dunno if even with this bonus accomidating evis into the SnD BS cycle/ a Sealfate Build will outdps what most combat daggers do currently. I see encounters drifting away from the sustained dps though. Sealfate def puts out more dmg in the first 10seconds faster than combat daggers no doubt. Preety happy with the set stats so far if they are real. Boots could use a little buff but im guessing they are one of the first drops.

NiXXeD · 05/11/06, 11:49 AM

All I know, is that it sounds incredibly fun to bust out the seal fate again... though not having the 120 energy will still make me sad =(

Farstrider · 05/11/06, 11:58 AM

boots look a little too much like the blood-drenched footpads that drop from Venoxis in ZG (blue item lol) to be part of an ilvl 93 set.

put more succintly they blow goats.

EDIT:- or indeed they have an extra 10 agi and 9 stam so maybe not quite so much of the goat-blowing yet.

Silverblood · 05/11/06, 11:59 AM

They need to give NS a new 5-Set Bonus and make Vigor 20 instead of 10.

Graham · 05/11/06, 11:59 AM

Um, wow, those item levels are pretty uninspiring.

Tower · 05/11/06, 12:01 PM

I think the viability of Seal Fate over a Combat Daggers build for a raiding rogue will only be decided if/when they change how Evis works for the rogue review. A rogue able to get enough of this set to get the bonuses is likely to be wielding 2 65+dps weapons. Just making the loss/gains of having/not-having Dual Wield spec greater and greater over time. I can't see them making a proc of the 8/8 bonus over 15-20% for a 5 Combo Point Evis - well, I can hope, but it'll likely cap out at like 10% or something. So while the power of Imp Backstab and Dagger Spec lean more on the 4 set bonus, a sword build will get better mileage out of the 8 piece bonus with solid SnD > Evis > Snd cycles.

Moral of the story, let's hope they give Evis a lot of lovin'.

• Wodin · 05/11/06, 12:11 PM

Set totals(BF):

Str - 86
Agi - 203
Sta - 141
Crit - 4
Hit - 3
Dodge - 2

Derived stats for BF:
AP - 289
Crit - 11
Dodge - 16 
Average ilvl: 76

Set totals(Bonescythe w/out ring):

Str - 47
Agi - 255
Sta - 186
Crit - 5
Hit - 8
Dodge - 0

Derived stats for BS:
AP - 302
Crit - 13.8
Dodge -  17.6
Average ilvl: 84.875

Set totals(DD + Qiraji Execution + BoNEA + Gloves of Enforcement):

Str - 201 (note that 64 of this is the AP on BoNEA - 
                        if the str == ap mechanic changes these calculations need to be revisited)
Agi - 193
Sta - 162
Crit - 5
Hit - 7
Dodge - 0

Derived stats for DD + extras:
AP - 394
Crit - 11.65
Dodge -  13.3
Average ilvl: 81.375

Now we can calculate deltas!

Bonescythe vs. Bloodfang:
Raw: +52agi -39str +45sta +1% crit +5% hit
Derived: +13AP +2.8% crit +1.6% dodge

BS vs. DD w/extras:
Raw: +62agi -154str +24sta +1% hit
Derived: -92AP +2.1% crit +4.3% dodge

Caladium · 05/11/06, 12:12 PM

Hyz has been having a field day with all this math on our forums lol He's just a bit of a math nut. <3 Hyz

• frmorrison · 05/11/06, 12:18 PM

I hope Evis gets changed somewhat in the review.

The lack of Attack Power on BS and the boots make me sad.