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Old 05/17/06, 7:15 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
the more anecdotes of EJ raiding i hear, the more it reminds me of my guild :-P

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Old 05/17/06, 7:20 PM   #127
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everytime I see a hunter with 95% durability when I am sitting at 10% it makes me want to take 1 less hunter each time.


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Old 05/17/06, 7:21 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Don't forget the damn rogues that vanish and bug stuff out too. DPS classes FTL!

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Old 05/17/06, 7:25 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by Kaubel
Originally Posted by hamlet
Waiting for kaubel's response
I saw that.

As for Judia, I'm going to refrain this time because I'm a wacky, unpredictable guy.

Originally Posted by Praetorian
Anyway, this used to be a good thread.
Bah, it made it to 100 posts and ran it's course. From here on, everyone is just waiting for druids to get a mention.
Its a habit, I tried to edit out my name but for some reason the forums closed up for a few hours to me and I couldnt remove it. If it has always been Fagadin, then I apologize I havent noticed until now. I only noticed it while seeing someone had edited out my name and mentally linked to two. Ill just apologize and say no more from here on.

Sorry.

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Old 05/17/06, 7:29 PM   #130
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Originally Posted by Sunder
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Don't forget the damn rogues that vanish and bug stuff out too. DPS classes FTL!
The first guild I ever joined in my fledgeling WoW career had a raid leader who was deadset into the idea that vanish didn't shed threat but just re-distributed it equally throughout the raid. Thus the gap between the MT and DPS classes shrank, giving a lower threshold for error and giving rise to potential raid wipes. Upon drawing aggro, he would personally threaten to nail anyone to a gibbet if they so much as dared to vanish instead of dying outright like the good little rogues they were.

It's one of those things that are much funnier in retrospect. Not so much at the time.

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Old 05/17/06, 7:32 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Amen.

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Old 05/17/06, 7:32 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by Kaubel
ran it's course.
This.

Uh anyway, what do people think is a sensible amount/ratio of officers? Our guild is kinda normal size (~80) but we only have 4 officers and a GM (and one of those officers is currently inactive). It puts a considerable strain on us when we're responsible for so much stuff with no one to share the workload with, but in all honest there are hardly any members I'd consider for a second when it comes to bumping to officer status. Does anyone else suffer from a dearth of leader types or is this yet another consequence of Draenor EU's laughable Horde pool?

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Old 05/17/06, 7:35 PM   #133
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Originally Posted by Sunder
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Don't forget the damn rogues that vanish and bug stuff out too. DPS classes FTL!
They fixed this a while ago, now vanish grants you a .5s chance to strip your gear off with a macro, after which the mob comes and rapes you. On a related note fuck hunters.

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in before JOHN FUCKING MADDEN

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Old 05/17/06, 9:37 PM   #134
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If your guild is at absolute rock bottom in terms of morale, there is always PvP against Alliance PuGs, or, if you're even beyond that point, I can't recommend more highly the therapeutic effects of a 40 man Deathmatch in the Dire Maul Arena. Especially if you play Officers vs. All (use your ill-gotten uber gear now! bwahaha, the proletariat rises!!).

Honestly though, PvP is a great way to defuse tension and build morale. Letting out your frustrations by chaining a CL and ES into the face of that one guy who just wont shut the fuck up on Ventrilo really makes it a lot easier to go back into MC/BWL/AQ with him the next day.

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Old 05/17/06, 9:50 PM   #135
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Originally Posted by XI-
Originally Posted by Sunder
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Don't forget the damn rogues that vanish and bug stuff out too. DPS classes FTL!
They fixed this a while ago, now vanish grants you a .5s chance to strip your gear off with a macro, after which the mob comes and rapes you. On a related note fuck hunters.
FD isn't exactly the pinacle of unbugginess. It's better than Vanish and on a shorter timer making the bugs matter less, but I've had it outright fail to do anything (without being resisted) a few times, and multiple times I've had mobs run up and start beating on me while I was feigning death.

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Old 05/17/06, 10:43 PM   #136
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Originally Posted by XI-
Originally Posted by Sunder
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Don't forget the damn rogues that vanish and bug stuff out too. DPS classes FTL!
They fixed this a while ago, now vanish grants you a .5s chance to strip your gear off with a macro, after which the mob comes and rapes you. On a related note fuck hunters.
I haven't even been able to manage that for a good while now. Last time i actually succeeded was on razorgore, probably about a month or so ago, and even then, i didn't drop out of combat for at least twelve seconds or so after vanishing (the vanish buff had actually faded before i dropped combat).

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Old 05/17/06, 10:54 PM   #137
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
Oh yeah well your seed SUCKS. So there.

How can you help?
I can shoot things and then make my pet move toward them.

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Old 05/17/06, 11:00 PM   #138
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
I thought blaming hunters was standard. We usually yell "TRANQ" in unison if a Frenzy is on for more than .5 seconds.

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Old 05/17/06, 11:39 PM   #139
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Originally Posted by Zagzil
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
I thought blaming hunters was standard. We usually yell "TRANQ" in unison if a Frenzy is on for more than .5 seconds.
We actually blame our paladins. Because two of them are officers. And sound EXACTLY ALIKE on Vent.

Thus, anything goes wrong? Their fault.

(No, there's no logic to it, it's just the way it is. Something goes wrong? Blame it on our Canadians or our paladins, or in extreme circumstances, our Canadian paladin.)

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 05/18/06, 12:05 AM   #140
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This thread delivers some great insight. It's a whole heap of useful information to keep in mind. Thanks for all the contributing posts.

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Old 05/18/06, 1:11 AM   #141
Angerz
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Originally Posted by Zagzil
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
I thought blaming hunters was standard. We usually yell "TRANQ" in unison if a Frenzy is on for more than .5 seconds.
You give them 5 seconds?

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Old 05/18/06, 1:49 AM   #142
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Periods generally denote decimal points. :P

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Old 05/18/06, 3:22 AM   #143
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When people screwed up on my raids and we were sucking I generally just pointed out what people were doing wrong while throwing in some sweet "fucking idiots" and "dumbasses" to make sure everyone knew I was unhappy.

I never raised my voice, though, because I think it's stupid.

EDIT: ps sup zagzil B)

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I don't care about this discussion in any way, whatsoever, except to say every retard that called rogues "rogs" should be fed to saltwater crocodiles.

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Old 05/18/06, 3:34 AM   #144
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Originally Posted by Angerz
Originally Posted by Zagzil
Originally Posted by Praetorian
Most of our officers are healers. Actually, come to think of it, like 90% of the officers are healers. We usually blame everything on the hunters. Also, if anything in an instance ever bugs out after the wipe, it's obviously because a hunter feigned death instead of dying with the rest of the raid.
I thought blaming hunters was standard. We usually yell "TRANQ" in unison if a Frenzy is on for more than .5 seconds.
You give them 5 seconds?
Nah, .5 seconds, aka 1/2 a second, so if we even see the buff on him we yell at our hunters for sucking.

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Old 05/18/06, 3:40 AM   #145
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Back on topic: we'll call a raid early if we're within an hour of scheduled end time and we're just not on the ball. No point in repeatedly wiping if you're not learning anything with the wipes because you're too tired/unfocused.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 05/18/06, 3:53 AM   #146
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Originally Posted by Kalman
(No, there's no logic to it, it's just the way it is. Something goes wrong? Blame it on our Canadians or our paladins, or in extreme circumstances, our Canadian paladin.)
For us, it's the guy who, many months ago, accidentally cast DI on the tank during what had potential to become our first Onyxia kill.

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Old 05/18/06, 4:01 AM   #147
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We had a priest namged Galthazar accidentally use his hearthstone way back when we first encountered Chromaggus... still referred to as "Hearthazar" to this day.

I used to have a huge image here, but then it got removed and now I\'ve developed chronic depression and suicidal tendencies. /wrists
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Old 05/18/06, 4:25 AM   #148
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just curious, how many guilds have main-tanks that have forgotten ony cloaks on nef, AND haven't let them forget it even though it's been months?

If using "he or she" seems awkward to you, try using a neutral gender term. Some people use s/he, others find that clumsy, and try using variations on pronunciation, such has zer or zier. Unfortunately, English doesn't really have the concept for neutral genders, so there's no real consensus yet. But that leaves room for one to be built.

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Old 05/18/06, 4:41 AM   #149
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Originally Posted by Kharzaljim
just curious, how many guilds have main-tanks that have forgotten ony cloaks on nef, AND haven't let them forget it even though it's been months?
Here's one. He forgot it on Ebonroc once, too. Luckily we have two MTs and the second one is a bit more capable (coincidentally, he's our GM).

We blame all our wipes on a mage called Xestion. He's the token "always dies on a bossfight" guy in our guild. The sound of his voice on comms doesn't help much "Oh god it's a wipe, damn it Jimmy" "Whaaa?".
We also make fun of one of our Fire mages who despite our best efforts still won't spec to Frost. He dies a lot as well and the "You could have Iceblocked that" thing never gets old ;)

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Old 05/18/06, 5:07 AM   #150
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Does having your MT accidently vendor his onyxia scale cloak instead of equipping it count?

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