i would love to meet that warrior

hehe, well you guys all know about the guy from EU-Chrommagus (mr 50 dkp minus). Imagine if EJ released some sound bites for downlaod, gurg saying in vent stuff like "Sheepy, you're off the case", they'd become global catchphrases.

I use sheepy's sig as an example because everytime i see it i can't help myself but to chuckle.

I vendored my onyxia scale cloak once, and just as i was logging out i remembered and just managed to cancel it and buy it back. Which is good as onyxia scales go for about 1000g each on Raganros if anyone is selling them.

We also had MT forgeting to put cloak on Onyxia.
I must admit I forgot to put it twice too. Once in Nef (that was a wipe anyway) and Flamegor few days ago while I was first traq and ate a first shadow flame too :)

On Sunday I forgot to put on my Onyxia Cloak for Nefarian, which as the raid leader is pretty embarressing. However, somehow I managed to resist the Shadowflame completely, which I didn't even think was possible... ?

The normal shadow flame that the drakes + Nefarian breathe deals shadow damage and can be resisted, but even if you resist it you will still get the massive damage-over-time effect that is certainly fatal with no cloak.

However, the shadow flame that Nefarian breathes when he lands deals fire damage, and if you resist it fully you will not be afflicted by the damage-over-time component regardless of your cloak status.

I heartstoned instead of summoning someone at the MC entrance once :(

I'm an raitem nazi for Nefarian, so we've managed to avoid most of those ony cloak incidents so far!

Minor tangent.. Here's a simple macro to see who in your raid is not wearing an Onyxia Scale Cloak.

/script local i,r,t,u,l=1,"raid","target",UnitName while u(r..i) do TargetUnit(r..i) if UnitExists(t) then l=GetInventoryItemLink(t,15) if l and not string.find(l,"m:15138") then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Not wearing cloak: "..u(t)) end end i=i+1 end

/raitem [Onyxia Scale Cloak]

Won't that just show who has them on their person, Gurg?

Exactly. Worn items don't show up on /raitem, which scans bag slots. If it's in their bag, they aren't wearing it, are they? (A couple of our MTs had two made so they could put SR on one for Ebonroc/Nef and FR on the other for general use, but I know who whose people are.)

Ah right, I wasn't aware it didn't scan worn items; I don't think I've ever used it for anything besides Aqual Quintessence and bandages (to see who best to steal from).

DKP for Ony Scale Cloaks is pretty much the worst idea ever.

You miss my point: I'm referring to the fact that I use my Onyxia Scale Cloak over my Cloak of Firemaw on Nefarian, Firemaw, Flamegor, Vaelastrasz, Ragnaros, and Fire Packs. Especially since they've borked vanish/swapping (damn Blizzard). Sorry, must have put it poorly.

That happened on Broodlord for us. We managed to kill him, though, healers were on the ball on the tank shift. God. Why do so many paladins put DI next to LoH on their actions? Worst idea ever.

DIing the MT on Garr and seeing which rogue tanks best is also fun (our MT has a standing 10g reward if someone can pull aggro from him on Garr without using a snap aggro).

Another funny paladin story: I was out in Blasted Lands farming boar lungs and I see Teremus spawn. So I get some people into a group to kill him for the quick cash boost. As I'm following him around, I see a paladin, totally unaware of the big dragon bearing down on him. He gets aggro from Teremus, has a quick "Oh crap" moment... and shield-hearths.

<3 seeing paladins shield-hearth.

Yeah, on Garr, there's just no way that's happening. Hell, as a shaman, when we do MC, I tank Flameguards (330 FR with Sulfuras, so why not?) and have a standing challenge to any DPS class to pull it off me once I have a head start of a few seconds. With mages burning all timers, etc., it's just not possible.

I wonder what happens if you aggro C'thun and shield hearth.

Pfft, you're just blaming low mana when we do :D

Go go Searing Pain spam?

Something tells me searing pain might not pull aggro on a Flameguard

Ha, yeah. Basically, if we're chain-pulling and I'm low on mana, then I'll only have moderate aggro on things. But if I can spam earth shocks alongside Sulfuras hits with Rockbiter, that mob isn't going anywhere.

On a completely separate (and somewhat topic-relevant!) note, I have a lot of respect for people who successfully lead raids on a regular basis while being a MT. Particularly on fights where the tank's attention really needs to be focused on things like stance dancing, repositioning the boss, timing shield blocks, and so forth. Tanking trash is no big deal, but I've been known to tank Baron Geddon from time to time (hey, like I said, max FR, so why not?) and even on a fight that's that relatively simple, the lack of perspective on the "big picture" is fairly disorienting as a raid leader.

:(

In terms of guild policy, do you have alot written down to cover many different situations/issues? Or, do you have a simple, unified "common sense" policy that covers all undefined issues?

We recently had someone drama quit during a raid for a combination of personal and loot reasons, and the next day one of the officers invited them back to the guild. Nothing happened to the individual in terms of a measured response, because we hadn't addressed/considered this scenerio prior to the incident. Some people think applying a penalty now after the fact, without posting the policy ahead of time, isn't 'fair'. How would you have handled this situation?

Also, under what circumstances do you think it's ok for characters to be botted for an encounter? We've allowed it for the second Binding of the Windseeker and the Eye of Sulfuras, and when stuff is going to get disenchanted that a west coaster could use (and would never see due to raid start time conflicts). Is anything beyond that generally acceptable by other top-end guilds?