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05/18/06, 12:29 PM
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Protector
Ashstorm
Human Paladin
No WoW Account
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post8381229
Q u o t e:
And nowhere did he say that he was going to start banning those who create these posts, not did I see a post where he implied that.
So unless you link a specific post, you're a liar.
Here, I'll make you a new one.
Players that troll, incite argument or bicker needlessly about "hardcores" or "casuals" by using any number of trite stereotypes or insults will be banned.
I don't want to hear about how "cazuls jus want free epix"
I don't want to hear about how "u live in ur mom's basement"
I don't want to hear about how "I got a life and can't waste my time with 39 nerds"
I don't want to hear about how "they tell me to raid or quit"
I don't want to hear about how "I werked hard for epix, noob"
I don't want to hear about how "my play style is threatened by things I don't want to do"
I've heard it all. Your ideas on the subject are neither novel or insightful. They are simply repetition. repetition. repetition.
And we don't like repetition, because petitions are against the forum guidelines. Dig?
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I just saw that on the General Forums, along with a few locked posts. I am glad there is going to be more moderation over there. It was getting out of hand. Tseric is a good CM.
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Millions of words are written annually purporting to tell how to beat the races, whereas the best possible advice on the subject is found in the three monosyllables: 'Do not try.'
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05/18/06, 12:33 PM
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#2
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Soda Popinski
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Moderation? If they wanted to moderate the forums any one who posted FIRST, an ascii art image, or participated in those retarded "repeat the same phrase" threads would be suspended and banned.
Until then...
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05/18/06, 12:33 PM
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#3
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King Hippo
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I like tseric alot, he doesnt just get all cute and try to be buddy buddy with people like some CMs.
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05/18/06, 12:34 PM
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In 1st, e-brake activated.
Kytrarewn
Undead Rogue
No WoW Account
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You actually try to read the general forums?
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Originally Posted by Ultramax
Moderation? If they wanted to moderate the forums any one who posted FIRST, an ascii art image, or participated in those retarded "repeat the same phrase" threads would be suspended and banned.
Until then...
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Amen.
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05/18/06, 12:39 PM
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Mike Tyson
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I don't know -- the guy-holding-his-head ASCII really does have a certain poignancy to it....
But yes, this is either a good thing, or a sign that Tseric is a week away from a nervous breakdown and a resignation letter.
I've long said that Blizzard should just permaban the fuck out of half their forums. If your first instinct upon reading an informative blue post is to type "omg first" and hit submit, you will never contribute anything useful or constructive. If you start a thread flaming a guild/player with a level one alt and then respond with your three other alts to draw attention, you will never contribute anything useful or constructive. And so forth.
Posting on an MMO's official boards should be a privilege, not a right. Everyone can read dev posts and follow along with the discussions from home, but the ability to participate in those discussions should be very tenuous. Right now the forums are largely just a festering cesspool that serve no constructive purpose.
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05/18/06, 12:44 PM
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Don Flamenco
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B.net forums 2.0?
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05/18/06, 12:45 PM
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Pretty Pony
Goblin Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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WoW forum moderation? This had better not take up CM time that could otherwise be spent posting in the much more important "IF U COULD HAV 1 MAGIC SPEL FROM WOW IRL WUT WOULD IT BE???" threads!
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05/18/06, 12:45 PM
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#8
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In 1st, e-brake activated.
Kytrarewn
Undead Rogue
No WoW Account
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They also need to add "Itemization", "Lore" and "Graphic Design" forums for those interested more in how their toons look than how the fights work out.
I'm sick of looking for interesting things in the R&D forum and Rogue Forum to be assaulted by 50 posts about the little heart on the Tier 3 Rogue Belt, to which Drysc replied very helpfully that it was really a diamond, and how Thaddius doesn't look "monstery" enough, and how "C'thun's an old god, zOMG. He shouldn't be killable!".
I play this game as an MMO player, not a Warcraft fanatic. Ideally, the R&D forum should be for discussions like the ones that I happen to be looking for.
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05/18/06, 12:51 PM
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enjoys game, likely in minority
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Many of us have largely held that bringing in a moderator from the Something Awful boards would result in genocide the likes of which schadenfreude has never experienced before.
Still, anything to get it off that wretched forums software that GFraizer(?) wrote is A-OK in my book.
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05/18/06, 1:10 PM
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Hero of the Horde
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Originally Posted by Navaash
schadenfreude
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Please don't use this word, it's what people say when they want to sound smart.
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05/18/06, 1:20 PM
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Piston Honda
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He's that shrink fella with the cigar, right?
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05/18/06, 1:24 PM
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ffffff
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
But yes, this is either a good thing, or a sign that Tseric is a week away from a nervous breakdown and a resignation letter.
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This is the first thing that came to my mind.
But yeah, moderation would be nice. The Druid forums make me very sad seeing "T3 is horrible!" and "OMG take the Feral AP off of the Legendary Staff!" I would like to contribute to debate in these instances, but it would just be drowned out by stupidity.
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05/18/06, 1:25 PM
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
But yeah, moderation would be nice. The Druid forums make me very sad seeing "T3 is horrible!" and "OMG take the Feral AP off of the Legendary Staff!" I would like to contribute to debate in these instances, but it would just be drowned out by stupidity.
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Thats why I stopped posting on the mage boards.
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05/18/06, 1:30 PM
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Mike Tyson
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Originally Posted by Brilliance
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
But yeah, moderation would be nice. The Druid forums make me very sad seeing "T3 is horrible!" and "OMG take the Feral AP off of the Legendary Staff!" I would like to contribute to debate in these instances, but it would just be drowned out by stupidity.
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Thats why I stopped posting on the mage boards.
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I've never even really looked at the shaman boards until recently, when I've posted a bit of stuff hoping against hope that it gets noticed and somehow conveyed to the devs. But the whole experience was made worthwhile when I saw this post in reply to one of my suggestions:

Gurg, I disagreed with almost everything you mention in your post. The reason you dont stress Mana Tide is because you are infact the raid leader.
In my old guild I was the raid leader and didnt really put emphasise on talent builds we even had a pure "dps" shaman. But when I left them due to my goal/idea for raiding(casual/hardcore I wont get into it) I joined a guild that is currently on phase 2 of cthun. And because shaman are used primarly for healers, Mana Tide is a must. And with its buff, it is becoming a "spec it or your /gkicked". I know alot of people go "hey they just /gquit its your money" but when Im a hardcore raider and the 2nd place guild is on chromagnus as well as fighting for a spot to raid in, its not that hard of a choice.
You obviously have never been 0/11/40(my current build). I cannot at all farm anything unless I get like 5 stacks of mage water before. The damage output is so low that I basically am forced to level another character in order to farm money for repairs.
The request to make 2hers trainable are for us that are full resto shamans. Just because you are not, you think that there is not problem farming things. Also requesting mana tide trainable will allow me to specc deper into enhancement or some other tree because i wont be needing MT anymore.s
As far as raid totems. Maybe you dont understand how much burden it is to redrop totems and heal. From the way you post, you area pure dps shaman. You dont sit there and heal away at the endgame encounters that causes you to blow massive ammounts of mana on totems.
When I was specced enhancement/resto I didnt have a problem at all with anything, but once i was resto/ehance I found out what everyone is saying. We cant farm, we cant do damage even in PvP and all we do is heal. I hope people dont view this as our rep, because he certainly is not mine.
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Maybe thats why I think differently than you do on raiding because I am expected to be mana tide and if Im not, I am not raiding at all. If I was your specc, Id be happy because I could heal and do dmg as well(22/29 with our current talents is the best) but I am not because I am focusing on end game challenges.
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05/18/06, 1:33 PM
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ffffff
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WTF Gurg? You obviously are not focused on the end game challenges!
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05/18/06, 1:33 PM
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Bald Bull
Undead Mage
Bloodhoof (EU)
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I read that thread today and wondered how long it would be until you posted it here Gurg... :)
Some amazing comments there! You had better learn to heal!
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05/18/06, 1:34 PM
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King Hippo
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This is what happens when every 15 year old starts playing a game. At release the boards actually had alot of good information and contributors. You didnt get the cliche'd "first!" and "l2p"cause it didnt exist yet. Then people learned that bitching gets attentions by the masses and of course you can find 30 other idiots that will agree with your point and if you push it long enough you get a name for yourself whether dubious or not. I really only take quick looks into the R&D boards for any info and do a bit of trash talking on my server boards but that is about it.
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05/18/06, 1:34 PM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
But yes, this is either a good thing, or a sign that Tseric is a week away from a nervous breakdown and a resignation letter.
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This is the first thing that came to my mind.
But yeah, moderation would be nice. The Druid forums make me very sad seeing "T3 is horrible!" and "OMG take the Feral AP off of the Legendary Staff!" I would like to contribute to debate in these instances, but it would just be drowned out by stupidity.
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Im pretty sure Tseric is gonna kill 50 small kittens soon.
I read Realm forums hoping for some decent drama and I poke me head into the rogue and R&D forums to see if some golden nugget is still floating atop the shit heap. I also like reading when people post about their eviscerate hitting harder, but that's just a guilty pleasure.
Then I remember I can just come here and read theorycraft.
I'm pretty sure the R&D forum was pretty good for like 45 minutes when it opened. I naively thought it would be a bastion of hope, boy was I wrong.
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05/18/06, 1:36 PM
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Mike Tyson
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R&D was pretty good for a month or so when it was a stealth addition that a lot of people didn't even notice. Then it got linked on the front page of wow.com and the downward spiral began.
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05/18/06, 1:36 PM
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<Druid Trainer> Emeritus
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Originally Posted by Brilliance
Thats why I stopped posting on the mage boards.
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For me, it was right around that "Mages' Union" debacle.
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05/18/06, 1:38 PM
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Piston Honda
Orc Warrior
Black Dragonflight
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At the risk of not contributing to this discussion I would like to state I just disturbed several co-workers with my laughter.
Thank you.
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05/18/06, 1:41 PM
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In 1st, e-brake activated.
Kytrarewn
Undead Rogue
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
I've never even really looked at the shaman boards until recently, when I've posted a bit of stuff hoping against hope that it gets noticed and somehow conveyed to the devs. But the whole experience was made worthwhile when I saw this post in reply to one of my suggestions:
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Between Ippon and that guy, Ruin takes itself waaay too seriously. And yes, it's sad that I remember them.
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05/18/06, 1:43 PM
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
But yeah, moderation would be nice. The Druid forums make me very sad seeing "T3 is horrible!" and "OMG take the Feral AP off of the Legendary Staff!" I would like to contribute to debate in these instances, but it would just be drowned out by stupidity.
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The druid forums were actually far and away the most down to earth of the lot before 1.8 and the locust swarm of lolferal kiddies assaulted the place, lingering ever afterward like some sort of fetid piece of decaying meat. I miss that community.
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05/18/06, 1:47 PM
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Piston Honda
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It's common knowledge that raid leaders just aren't that focused on raiding.
Every once in a while, I go on the WoW boards and try to make a few (hopefully) constructive posts, mostly giving advice on specs and healing strategies. Within minutes, I get so discouraged by the sheer volume of FUD that I just stop what I'm typing and bail. You could spend all day every day simply correcting misinformation and responding to ignorant opinions presented as facts. It sucks because there are plenty of people there who either (1) have something valuable to offer or (2) are willing and eager to listen to what others have to offer, but the task of identifying those people in the morass and successfully engaging them is simply exhausting.
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05/18/06, 1:47 PM
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Bald Bull
Undead Mage
Bloodhoof (EU)
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The bit that saddened me the most was the thread with the "Amazing" Bloodthirst suggestion had more peopel clamouring for it, and more bumps, that Gurgs.
The novel idea for Bloodthirst was :
"Costs x mana, lasts 30 minutes. Target player's attack speed and casting speed is increased by 5%, and attack power is increased by 5%. Target generates 30% more hate".
And then a huge group of idiots applauding this masterful idea. Because it's not like, uterly and completely out of balance in every respect? And *still* isn;t as good as Salvation either?
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