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On the other hand, maybe the first staff should go to a class that can actually equip it.

Where were you when off hand sword procs, procced main hand swings. And where is your fucking sword skill.
edit: but it's still a nice sword.

I was there!

Cant really tell how we killed him, but the fight is very fun to learn.

And he dropped a 60k Unbalancing strike on me.

Ehm, aura ?

Damn, nice, I'd give, like, money and stuff to be able to... wait... I am giving them money. Bastards. (yeah yeah, more bitter eu non-testers, you'll probably hear that a lot until something changes, unfortunately). But hopefully this should mean most stuff will be working well by the time we get to see them. *hops up and down like a jackrabbit on speed* ooh, I cant wait, I cant wait!

Yea but it does have a different Aura depending on which class is wielding it. So aside from giving all 40 splinters to someone who won't leave the game next month, it should also be a class that you can agree on will give the best aura to your raid (is it even raid? not like, group only? I know it's a legendary but a raid aura seems very... strong?).

Do you need more healing, or do you want more +spelldamage, or even extra spellcrit?

Ha, yeah, saw you in the screenshot. Was that your real character or a premade? I'm looking forward to actually getting onto the PTRs to check out Naxx.

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Regarding Atiash: I made the Sulfuras analogy because all it does is add a bit of damage or healing or mana regen to a handful of raid members. It's a better weapon than the nonlegendaries, but it doesn't transform your raid as a whole beyond what a handful of normal upgrades would do. Thunderfury on the other hand means much more aggro in the hands of your MT, which is invaluable, not to mention (before various stacking nerfs especially) reducing all melee damage your MT takes by 20%. That's tremendous.

As for Atiash, I think it's probably most wasted on a priest, but maybe that's just because of how we set up our groups. I never stack healers, and +healing is a bonus that pretty much calls for stacking healers in a single group. A druid with +mana/5 aura could fit in well in all sorts of groups.

In terms of the stats, it probably is best in the hands of a DPS class. Healers will grumble over this, but, two points:
1) More damage is generally better than more healing. Consumables and more efficient healing assignments can make up for the latter; nothing can make up for the former -- when you need to burn down an add before the next one spawns, damage is the name of the game and there's no substitute.
2) To make Atiash you have to kill Kel'Thuzad. Kel'Thuzad drops a fucking +280 healing one-hander. From a pure stats perspective, a druid or priest is actually roughly just as well-off wielding a 1h+offhand combo that will have roughly +400 healing, plus some nice mana/5 and stats. Is Atiash better, especially counting the auras? Sure. But it's not sufficiently better to be a huge deal. The offensive version, however, is pretty unparalleled even in light of what we've seen of the Naxx drops at E3 and elsewhere.

Pretty certain the off-hand still will proc sword spec and cause the main hand to swing.

No sword skill, but interestingly I threw this into the super sekret swords version of the spreadsheet, and it outperforms Maladath in the off-hand by 12 DPS, if you assume you had the premade rogue's gear, and switched the off-hand CTS with this new sword. For rough equivalency, we know that +5 skill is the DPS boost of ~6% hit, so +4 skill from Maladath is approximately the DPS boost of under ~5% hit. The 1% hit, 1% crit, 28 AP, 6 more DPS, and extra poison/sword spec procs cause the blade to overtake Maladath pretty nicely.

I got lucky and got my live mage onto PTR. I transfered last saturday at like 8:30 am est.

I really like Nax. Dunno if this sounds weird or not, but I get an amazing vibe from that place. And the fact that people like Furor (or what we guessed was Furor) and other GM's were watching us made it seem like they really do care about this instance.

Hell, they even spawned Talent retrainers and class trainers before the attempt that we killed them (some mage talents are broken, who would of guessed) and reset all our 30 min cooldowns before the attempt were we killed them.

The trash after the boss we killed is pretty cool, and the next boss... Rapes. Its a very intersting encounter, although I only stayed for one attempt (I had work in like 6 hours, felt I should get some sleep :p)

I will post a few SS that I got later, when I get home from work.

how in the world did you get 40 people logged on at anything resembling prime time? i tried to log in at 9 am sunday morning and there was a 3800 person queue.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1...orsemen4er.jpg

from EU forums, 4 horsemen boss.

discuss etc

If every boss drops a splinter every kill (obviously we have no idea, just that Risen/Immo got one) it really won't be difficult to give splinters out at all, there will be more than enough to go around before Kel'thuzad dies, assuming every boss drops one.

Either way the druid aura seems really good, since it affects the most classes.

Sick. I'm assuming you guys have heard the Ashbringer audio clips? Can't wait for Naxx personally.

I can't really see giving the staff to a priest. I'd certainly like to have it, but in order to take advantage of it I'd have to always be in a group of me and four druids (priests would waste PoH, paladins would waste auras). Even then, the aura is somewhat unimpressive.

With the druid one, just toss them in a group of all casters and the aura is doing something useful. It's not the best stat for mages/warlocks, but mana regen is certainly useful for them. However, because of the mace off Kel'Thuzad, it'd probably better to put it in the hands of a mage or warlock, who also have auras that are easy to take advantage of. A group of three mages and two warlocks (with the staff on a warlock) will do a disgusting amount of damage. If Innervate turns out to make moonkin viable, then even more fun.

TBH, with the level of gear we will have when we actually get the staff, the difference between the mage aura and the warlock aura shrinks massively. We've got 1200 base frostbolts now easily, we can expect 1300 easily. That makes the mage aura equivalent to +26 damage, compared to +33 for the warlocks - and the mage one has additonal benefits. (Improved Shadowbolt, Chainheal / Ancestral Fortitude shennanigans for shaman & priests, Master of Elements etc.).

Not discounting the warlock aura, just saying the mage one is a lot more close cut that you would estimate.

I love this idea. Of course I would, I'm a feral druid.

Yes, our aura scales with gear, and by the time a mage gets that he will most likely already have scaled past the warlock aura.

Healers have always had more options, thus items like this should go to locks/mages primarly. Same thing applied to Choker of the fire lord.
This will most likely be the single best lock/mage loot until the expansion goes live, whereas healers has other very similar options.

Which talents, and in what way are they broken, out of curiosity?

I knew that if I prayed hard enough, Blizzard would finally itemize a melee weapon for hunters and nobody else. Now I can finally stop going on UBRS runs for my noobsaw!
And an actual DPS upgrade on a ranged weapon? Thanks for posting these links!

A mage who was there was complaining about how Flamethrowing was not adding the extra range on his fireballs, and how the fire power 10% calculations were not being counted into all his fire spells. (He tested it during the trash, had the same fireballs as another copy mage, who was full frost)

No complaints from the frost tree though. Rocking it steady with my amazing 11/0/40 spec. Oh yea.

Edit- Clarity.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/triton-/kuvia/wow/1.11/

Screenies from Naxx and some items too, added models for some weapons too.