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Old 06/01/06, 10:24 AM   #1
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http://wowwalkthroughs.free.fr/New%2...es%201.11.html

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Old 06/01/06, 10:47 AM   #2
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So, uhm, can anyone check Deathdealer Vest stats on the new PTR?

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Old 06/01/06, 10:55 AM   #3
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I didn't notice the bug section before. It seems they will cap mana regen in combat to 100%. Well, it was a fun bug. I like this one, - The range for resurrection is the same whether the target player has released or not, that was always annoying.

Also, I am interested to know the new PvP 12/13 stats (Blizzard said they would change they from what it was initially on Test).

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Old 06/01/06, 11:01 AM   #4
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Which bug allowed you to get more than 100% mana regen in combat?
 
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Old 06/01/06, 11:08 AM   #5
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Was that Blizzard's way of referring to continuing to cast while having Innervate on you? Or are they referring to Meditation + 3 piece Trans + Blue Dragon Card proc stacking?

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Old 06/01/06, 11:11 AM   #6
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I think the second one.

The math made for an unbelievably retarded amount of regen.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 11:11 AM   #7
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- Items which allow mana regeneration while casting will not stack greater than 100%.

The key word is "items".
 
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Old 06/01/06, 11:14 AM   #8
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Yeah, the link wasn't opening for me - thanks for posting the relevant text. Looks like I might have to put the card away.

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Old 06/01/06, 11:17 AM   #9
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I think it'll affect Innervate and Evo and such too.

Basically, chracters have two mana-regen related modifiers:
Mod Power Regen

and

Mod Interrupted Mana Regen

The former is a modifier to base mana regen. The latter represents the percentage of the former that a player gains while under the 5-second rule.

Meditation/Arcane Meditation/3-piece Trans all increase the latter value by 15%. Mage Armor increases it by 30%. The Blue Dragon proc increases it by 100%.

Effects like Innervate and Evocation increase the first value immensely, while also increasing the second by 100%.

The intended effect is meant to be "Your base mana regen goes way up, and for the duration of this effect you get full mana regen while casting."

The problem is that the modifiers to Interrupted Mana Regen were additive and could go past 100, meaning that you gained more mana while under the 5-second rule than you did otherwise. So if you are a priest with Meditation and 3pc Trans, and a druid innervates you, your Mod Interrupted Mana Regen value is now 130%. That means that you get 30% more regen while casting than you do when you haven't cast a spell for 5 seconds. That was clearly unintended. As an extreme example, if you got an innervate while you had the Blue Dragon proc on you, you'd regain mana as if you had two Innervates at the same time, provided that you kept casting.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 11:49 AM   #10
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So, uhm, can anyone check Deathdealer Vest stats on the new PTR?
It's back to it's original stats, so as Gurgthock predicetd, it was probably just an error in the item database.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 12:06 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
Also, I am interested to know the new PvP 12/13 stats (Blizzard said they would change they from what it was initially on Test).
Priest set remained the same. Or at least is so minimally changed I can't tell the difference. Still plenty of wasted mana/5.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 1:47 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Blizzard
- The Spirit of Zandalar will no longer persist through death.
Was this in the initial notes? 3 tokens for a *unique* and now rather crappy potion is, well... crap!
 
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Old 06/01/06, 1:48 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Vodos
Originally Posted by Blizzard
- The Spirit of Zandalar will no longer persist through death.
Was this in the initial notes? 3 tokens for a *unique* and now rather crappy potion is, well... crap!
That's the Spirit of Zanza. It wasn't changed.

The Hakkar buff will no longer persist.

Originally Posted by Vontre
Oh, nah, I just type things for the sake of typing things. ^_^
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Old 06/01/06, 1:51 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Kalman
That's the Spirit of Zanza. It wasn't changed.

The Hakkar buff will no longer persist.
Reading ftl!

- Emeriss, Lethon, Taerar, Ysondre - Some of their abilities will be less predictable than before

No longer trigger at 25% intervals?
 
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Old 06/01/06, 2:30 PM   #15
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Princess Huhuran's Acid Spit can no longer be redirected by Grounding

Totems.

DOH!

 
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Old 06/01/06, 3:57 PM   #16
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The hitpoints of every creature in the General Rajaxx encounter has been lowered.
Go go Blizzard grammar. Anyway, they make an easy encounter easier... but don't change the tedium much, if at all (other than the slightly shorter wait times between waves). Yay?

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Old 06/01/06, 3:59 PM   #17
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Lowering the hp of everything also makes the fight go faster.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 4:06 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
The hitpoints of every creature in the General Rajaxx encounter has been lowered.
don't change the tedium much, if at all (other than the slightly shorter wait times between waves). Yay?
I am happy they are making changes rather than worrying about grammer.

You can pull the next wave without waiting if you really wanted to.

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Old 06/01/06, 4:19 PM   #19
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Shadowstrike: The cooldown on transforming this item is now always 60 seconds.

Thank god they fixed that. lol.



Swarms of Eels have been spotted off the shores of Ferelas, Tanaris, Azshara and southern Stranglethorn.

Stonescale Eels wont be such a pain to farm anymore??

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Old 06/01/06, 4:29 PM   #20
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So, uhm, can anyone check Deathdealer Vest stats on the new PTR?
Checked this morning, it's back to its current (1.10) stats.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 4:32 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Perdrix
Shadowstrike: The cooldown on transforming this item is now always 60 seconds.

Thank god they fixed that. lol.



Swarms of Eels have been spotted off the shores of Ferelas, Tanaris, Azshara and southern Stranglethorn.

Stonescale Eels wont be such a pain to farm anymore??
That depends on whether the schools will appear at all time of the day or not. It's not like you couldn't get 20 Eels an hour if you fished at, like, 0200 server time.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 6:36 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
The hitpoints of every creature in the General Rajaxx encounter has been lowered.
Go go Blizzard grammar. Anyway, they make an easy encounter easier... but don't change the tedium much, if at all (other than the slightly shorter wait times between waves). Yay?
When a wave is dead, the next wave gets pulled automatically, so anything that makes for a faster wave kill makes for a faster encounter.

Originally Posted by Vontre
Oh, nah, I just type things for the sake of typing things. ^_^
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Old 06/01/06, 6:51 PM   #23
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Aww, no more "priming" Evocation to make it 30% bigger. It was a nice and surprisingly little-known trick.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 6:54 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Navaash
- Items which allow mana regeneration while casting will not stack greater than 100%.

The key word is "items".
later on:

"Fixed a bug where characters were able to exceed 100% of their normal

mana regeneration while casting. "

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Yes, sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 06/01/06, 7:01 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Kalman
Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
The hitpoints of every creature in the General Rajaxx encounter has been lowered.
Go go Blizzard grammar. Anyway, they make an easy encounter easier... but don't change the tedium much, if at all (other than the slightly shorter wait times between waves). Yay?
When a wave is dead, the next wave gets pulled automatically, so anything that makes for a faster wave kill makes for a faster encounter.
Fast != Non-Tedious.

I would have preferred that they buff up the individual waves, give them a few more "cool" abilities different between waves, but have fewer damned waves.

Having to put up with, essentially, the same thing between waves for 8 waves is something I, personally, find highly tedious.

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