If sword spec procs on the offhand sword cause the main hand to swing, does it work if the main is not a sword? Would it be possible to do sword spec and dagger spec and mh a dagger and get 5% crit and oh a sword and get extra swings still?

I'd go try it out if I weren't at work and the servers weren't down.

Wouldn't it be more correct to say that you need a weapon to match the specialization for it to get the specialization bonus, whether that be main hand or off hand? I'm just guessing since I don't really know, but the implications of what you are saying are equally stupid and in fact a tad more so than the original statement :O

I hope there's some logic in this matter.

Sword spec will make you MH swing no matter what you have equipped. For some fun replace your MH sword with an Ironfoe, and laugh like a madman when your swordspec procs Ironfoe.

Though trying to get dagger spec and sword spec at the same time, seems utterly stupid, considering that
would require you to lose better talents.

Sword spec can proc anytime you deal damage with a sword. So you can use an off-hand sword and main hand dagger and be able to use both weapon specs at the same time, but you are not taking full advantage of your talents.

Also an extra swing on a dagger is weak compared to a sword.

given the same example of dagger/sword with both weapon specs, its more reasonable to consider something like Fist/Sword where your OH sword procs a +5% crit Fist hit, which if you are using something like CotBD or Rank 14 MH, would do more white damage off the proc than most any dagger.

Um, I'm pretty sure that sword spec, and any other "extra hit" itemization has been fixed such that the extra hit gets processed on the hand that swung it. So if your offhand procs sword spec, you get an extra offhand attack.

How come my sword rogue who has a Hanzo Sword offhand and a Viking Warhammer mainhand, when sword spec procs I get two messages for around 50 damage, not one for 50 followed by 100?

Wouldn't this be silly easy to test though? Just equip a 1 dps mainhand, Hanzo in offhand and go slap some elite lowlevel mob until it procs.
Instead of arguing about it when more than one person has claimed that it works. :)

Nevermind, it does swing the mainhand. I was at work, couldn't test it.

Awesome thread, maybe if we all complain to blues on the WoW forums about how blizz loves combat daggers more than combat swords, they'll add better itemization for +sword skill. Or...they'll do what they usually do and look at the thread and say, dangit they noticed...oh well. Back to non-bitter ground, I hope in the near future there is more itemization for +sword skill other than just maladath to brings us up to the same +skill potential as combat dagger's which can get to 316, nevermind the cap.

I'm not even certain whether they realise how good it is, judging by the polearm with all of those ranged weapon skills on it... Unless of course, they're trying to bring melee hunters into fashion.

Death's Sting does give me hope for the future, even if it is a dagger. :)

Hey you never know - there's some good stuff in Naxx.

That was pretty quick Wodin. I'v seen DM screenshots similar to the one you posted after core hound packs. When and after what content was that screenshot?

/drool at Naxx items
Iblis in particular. Want an awesome offhander. Mainly the set bonus that restores 5 energy per crit off BS, SS, or Hemo is pretty sick, 4 piece bonus I believe. Obviously it favors dagger rogues in terms of crit chance, but then again what's 5 energy when the cost of BS is so high? Back to Maladath, I can't wait till I get one. Not that any rogue is concerned with estetics (see definition: sarcasm) but it looks soooo sick. Again off topic (I'll work on it), DD is so ugly, how can a rogue be expected to strike fear in the hearts of the opposite faction, or waver the will of raid bosses when looking like a Power Ranger (see cenarion set: not scary)?

I just realized (read found out) that Iblis is a name for Satan. I guess the "Sword of the Fallen Seraph" should have tipped me off to that.

I is smrt.

Patchwerk.