Mage Spreadsheet, updated - Page 4

• Hamlet · 06/08/06, 4:40 AM

Hmm, I just realized I have to do some of the final computation of total damage for a fight in a more advanced way, or this really isn't going to be valid.

All the stuff about DPS/MPS numbers for particular cycles is great, but combining cycles to optimize damage while using M mana in time T is trickier than I'd thought.

oldirtybasti · 06/08/06, 4:50 AM

Originally Posted by Requitas

And yet Horde are still somehow able to progress. Seriously, I think you're putting way too much stock in what Paladins bring to a raid compared to Shamans.

Honestly, the only time your faction choice has ever mattered in progression was 100% deaggro Broodlord and untauntable drakes. Beyond that, Alliance perhaps has a more convenient raiding experience. But it's not like there's an encounter in the game that you just plain can't beat because you don't have Paladins.

i also dont think that there is a remarkable imbalance between the factions. But there are some minor annoyances between mage/paladin in raids (alliance) and rogue/shaman pairs for horde.

Drauk · 07/16/06, 6:54 AM

Arawethion, i noticed that spreadsheet doesn't have a field for Arcane Concenctration (CC) talent. Do you ignore it effect, or its assumed every mage has it ?

Maledict · 07/16/06, 7:04 AM

It's assumed every mage has it... :)

Gannon · 08/28/06, 6:57 PM

Does this spreadsheet still work with 1.12? As far as I can see it should, but I wanted to check with anybody who knew for sure. Thanks.

Kasi · 09/06/06, 9:42 PM

Ara, I have a couple questions here for a guildie about some mage stuff. Tried looking at spreadsheet, but got confused by it.

1) Can each tick of Arcane missiles proc clear casting? A guildie is thinking that might make AM worth it as the primary nuke..

2) How does chain casting AM (with an arcane build) do in comparison in DPM and DPS to frostbolt or fireball/scorch?

Thanks for anyone who can point me to this. Trying to find the info using search but its hard. I used to play a mage and instinct tells me that using AM all the time is just wrong, but I would like some math.

Thrillho · 09/06/06, 9:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kasi

1) Can each tick of Arcane missiles proc clear casting? A guildie is thinking that might make AM worth it as the primary nuke..

Only the first tick of AM can proc Clearcasting or Netherwind Focus.

• Hamlet · 09/06/06, 9:49 PM

Originally Posted by Gannon

Does this spreadsheet still work with 1.12? As far as I can see it should, but I wanted to check with anybody who knew for sure. Thanks.

I've had it in the back of my mind for a while. It should be pretty simple to update, for anyone who wants to have a go at it.

Also, there's someone with potentially more advanced work who posted in this thread:
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=7742