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06/10/06, 8:04 AM
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Glass Joe
Murloc Warrior
Non-NA/EU Realm
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I have been watching and playing around with http://www.hfhclan.com/WoW/WarriorDPS.xls with different DW combo's.
Reading the topics about glancing hits and so on i tested out different weapons with 311 skill (Maladath +4/Edgemaster's Handguards +7) on swords and compared to other weapons..
Anyway, there is none or atleast i can't find any, topics/discussions about dw-fury warriors and weapon choices and I was hoping for some links or more discussion about it here :D
This is what i came up with, 1k AP, 25% Crit, 10% hit as base values and then I counted in the bonuses from weapons.
DPS MH/OH
355 Blessed Qiraji War Hammer/Anusibath Warhammer (300)
358 CTS/Maladath (300)
360 Ripper/Maladath (300)
364 Claw of the Black Drake/Maladath
367 Claw of the BLack Drake/CTS
367 Iblis/Maladath (300)
375 Blessed Qiraji War Hammer/Anusibath Warhammer (304)
375 Crul'Shorukh/Pugio
375 Qiraji Ripper/Pugio
377 CTS/Maladath (304)
379 Ripper/Maladath (304)
379 Hungering Cold/Maladath (300)
388 Iblis/Maladath (304)
389 One hand mace/one hand axe
392 CTS/Maladath (311)
394 Ripper/Maladath (311)
397 Kingsfall/Frostwyrm OH
398 Hungering Cold/Iblis
400 Hungering Cold/Maladath (304)
403 Iblis/Maladath (311)
404 Hungering Cold/Frostwyrm OH
415 Hungering Cold/Maladath (311)
Do you think this is accurate? Do you have other weapon combos to suggest?
CTS/Maladath came up as a rather deadly combo for being weapons from BWL, even ripper didn't seem to be a big upgrade from CTS which suprised me and im wondering if this really is as accurate as I wish it to be.
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06/10/06, 8:06 AM
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#2
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Glass Joe
Murloc Warrior
Non-NA/EU Realm
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Ofc, i forgot to count in the loss of AP/Crit/Hit when using edgemasters for weaponskill on the 304/311 ones instead of GoA :\
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06/10/06, 8:43 AM
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I BoP my Main tank.
Blood Elf Paladin
Executus
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I find it almost sad that with all the badassery of offhands from Naxx and AQ, the ultimate OH is the sword from Broodlord, 2 full instances ago :(.
Same deal with Rogues, and ACLG's/Mugger's Belt I guess :/ seems retarded to me.
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06/10/06, 8:57 AM
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Glass Joe
Murloc Warrior
Non-NA/EU Realm
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Originally Posted by Deris
I find it almost sad that with all the badassery of offhands from Naxx and AQ, the ultimate OH is the sword from Broodlord, 2 full instances ago :(.
Same deal with Rogues, and ACLG's/Mugger's Belt I guess :/ seems retarded to me.
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That is on fights we're you get glancing blows ofc, don't forget that you fight alot towards non 61+ mobs aswell :)
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06/10/06, 8:58 AM
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#5
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Not amused....at all
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whats your race?
erm after rereading i figured your not human/orc
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06/10/06, 10:25 AM
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#6
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Von Kaiser
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Can you please add in
Blessed Qiraji War Hammer + Anubisath Warhammer
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http://www.afterlifeguild.org
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06/10/06, 10:59 AM
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Glass Joe
Murloc Warrior
Non-NA/EU Realm
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Originally Posted by Chaotik
Can you please add in
Blessed Qiraji War Hammer + Anubisath Warhammer
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Added
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06/10/06, 11:32 AM
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#8
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Von Kaiser
Orc Warrior
Frostmane (EU)
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How about being orc or human with +5 axe/sword/mace skill ? and using edgemasters on that
like Crul'Shorukh/Pugio with 312MH weaponskill and 307 OH weaponskill?
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06/10/06, 1:17 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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Unless I read it wrong, that spreadsheet doesn't take into account other gear nor flurry chance from instants. And that's the first mistakes I could find i the first minute of glancing over it. Who did this spreadsheet?
On the thread topic, yes, I find it depressing that glancing blows puts such a stranglehold on a few slots, not allowing you to upgrade them at all.
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06/10/06, 1:37 PM
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#10
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Glass Joe
Murloc Warrior
Non-NA/EU Realm
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
Unless I read it wrong, that spreadsheet doesn't take into account other gear nor flurry chance from instants. And that's the first mistakes I could find i the first minute of glancing over it. Who did this spreadsheet?
On the thread topic, yes, I find it depressing that glancing blows puts such a stranglehold on a few slots, not allowing you to upgrade them at all.
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Found the spreadsheet in #eu-warrior channel on qnet.
I agree it's depressing pve-wise.
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06/10/06, 2:01 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=1341886
That's a spreadsheet I put together. I'm not saying it's correct, but I think it does a better job than the one you linked because it incorporates more of the picture. In my spreadsheet, if the warrior is wielding Death's Sting/Pugio and Edgemaster's Gauntlets, and replaces the gloves with Gauntlets of Annihilation, he only loses 3 dps on level 63, while gaining ~150 hp.
I want this to be accurate, so definitely go over it and look for mistakes and let me know.
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06/10/06, 2:02 PM
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Divine Protector
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
On the thread topic, yes, I find it depressing that glancing blows puts such a stranglehold on a few slots, not allowing you to upgrade them at all.
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Looking at it differently, if you already have +weapon skill items, then you don't need to worry about upgrading, so that could be seen as a positive situation.
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DK - Ashbane Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor.
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06/10/06, 2:23 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
On the thread topic, yes, I find it depressing that glancing blows puts such a stranglehold on a few slots, not allowing you to upgrade them at all.
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Looking at it differently, if you already have +weapon skill items, then you don't need to worry about upgrading, so that could be seen as a positive situation.
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I guess...but getting new gear is half the point to raiding.
Looking at some of numbers. If warrior is DWing a AQR/Maladath with Edgemaster's, and goes to AQR/EOC and gauntlets of annihilation, he only looses 11 dps. The difference is even smaller on level 62 mobs. In that case, I think it's well worth the 280HP.
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06/10/06, 3:40 PM
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Captain N
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
Looking at some of numbers. If warrior is DWing a AQR/Maladath with Edgemaster's, and goes to AQR/EOC and gauntlets of annihilation, he only looses 11 dps. The difference is even smaller on level 62 mobs. In that case, I think it's well worth the 280HP.
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Hive Defilers Wristguards -> Bracelets of Wrath.
Gain 270HP, lose 20AP and 0.9% crit. I'm pretty confident that that's a smaller DPS loss, for equivalent Stamina Gain, than 11DPS.
Not to mention that with the Bracelets of Wrath, you don't need to pay for both tanking and DPS bracers.
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Jesus don't want me in a sunbeam
Sunbeams are always made on me
Don't expect me to cry, for all the reasons I'm gonna die
Don't ever ask your kick of me.
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06/10/06, 4:12 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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I'd rather use Qiraji Execution Bracers than either of those.
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06/10/06, 4:32 PM
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Captain N
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
I'd rather use Qiraji Execution Bracers than either of those.
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Your guild doesn't give priority on leather armor to leather-wearing classes?
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Jesus don't want me in a sunbeam
Sunbeams are always made on me
Don't expect me to cry, for all the reasons I'm gonna die
Don't ever ask your kick of me.
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06/10/06, 4:54 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Druid
Black Dragonflight
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
I'd rather use Qiraji Execution Bracers than either of those.
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Your guild doesn't give priority on leather armor to leather-wearing classes?
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Of course they do, I'm just saying I think the qiraji bracers are better than Hive Defiler.
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06/10/06, 6:10 PM
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Shave and a hair cut
Blood Elf Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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Did you factor specs into this? It seems odd that maces would beat out swords or axes with their respective specs.
edit: I am an idiot and totally read it wrong. ignore this :x
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Originally Posted by masanbol
It probably shouldn't surprise me that the first applications of one of the coolest creature designers ever made is going to be cockmonsters and titwalkers.
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Originally Posted by Zyla
I mean christ, cunnilingus is much like being a resto shaman, you spam the button and let it do the work. So long as you change targets as appropriate you don't need to put any thought into it.
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06/10/06, 6:26 PM
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Piston Honda
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Where would rank 14 1handers be on that list?
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06/10/06, 9:08 PM
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Mostly Harmless
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Question about the first calculator linked, what's the additional rage / sec, and why is it set to 1.66 by default?
EDIT : Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.
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06/10/06, 9:13 PM
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Glass Joe
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what about Hungering Cold/Kingsfall ?
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http://ctprofiles.net/1923091
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06/10/06, 10:05 PM
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Sentient Hyper-Optimized Data Access Network
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What's the point of including combos with Maladath and only 300 skill?
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06/10/06, 10:24 PM
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Divine Protector
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Shavnir
Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.
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It is between 25 to 28 strength.
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DK - Ashbane Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor.
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06/11/06, 1:27 AM
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And It's Delicious
<>
Orc Shaman
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Shavnir
Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.
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It is between 25 to 28 strength.
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Higher, really. Depends on attack pattern, but for rogues it's more in the 30-40 range, depending on weapon speed and type.
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Originally Posted by Vontre
Oh, nah, I just type things for the sake of typing things. ^_^
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Originally Posted by Lyta
The dog nailed me like three times that day. It resulted in my ass hitting the ground and my legs waving in the air.
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06/11/06, 2:20 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
Hive Defilers Wristguards -> Bracelets of Wrath.
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I also like Bracelets of Wrath as far as bracer options go. If it came down to it I would take Bracers of Brutality over Hive Defiler's Wristgards, Qiraji Execution Bracers seem like a viable option as well.
Honestly I would like to see where Thunderfury/Maladath and Thunderfury/CTS rank (since that's what I use), although I suppose factoring in the proc rate could be an issue.
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