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Old 06/10/06, 3:32 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
I'd rather use Qiraji Execution Bracers than either of those.
Your guild doesn't give priority on leather armor to leather-wearing classes?

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Old 06/10/06, 3:54 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
Originally Posted by Deathwing
I'd rather use Qiraji Execution Bracers than either of those.
Your guild doesn't give priority on leather armor to leather-wearing classes?
Of course they do, I'm just saying I think the qiraji bracers are better than Hive Defiler.

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Old 06/10/06, 5:10 PM   #18
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Did you factor specs into this? It seems odd that maces would beat out swords or axes with their respective specs.

edit: I am an idiot and totally read it wrong. ignore this :x

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Old 06/10/06, 5:26 PM   #19
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Where would rank 14 1handers be on that list?

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Old 06/10/06, 8:08 PM   #20
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Question about the first calculator linked, what's the additional rage / sec, and why is it set to 1.66 by default?

EDIT : Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.

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Old 06/10/06, 8:13 PM   #21
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what about Hungering Cold/Kingsfall ?

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Old 06/10/06, 9:05 PM   #22
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What's the point of including combos with Maladath and only 300 skill?


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Old 06/10/06, 9:24 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Shavnir
Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.
It is between 25 to 28 strength.

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Old 06/11/06, 12:27 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
Originally Posted by Shavnir
Also what is the AP equivalent of Crusader? I never quite figured out what percent of the time its active.
It is between 25 to 28 strength.
Higher, really. Depends on attack pattern, but for rogues it's more in the 30-40 range, depending on weapon speed and type.

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Old 06/11/06, 1:20 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by Kytrarewn
Hive Defilers Wristguards -> Bracelets of Wrath.
I also like Bracelets of Wrath as far as bracer options go. If it came down to it I would take Bracers of Brutality over Hive Defiler's Wristgards, Qiraji Execution Bracers seem like a viable option as well.

Honestly I would like to see where Thunderfury/Maladath and Thunderfury/CTS rank (since that's what I use), although I suppose factoring in the proc rate could be an issue.

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Old 06/11/06, 5:01 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by Deathwing
http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=1341886

That's a spreadsheet I put together. I'm not saying it's correct, but I think it does a better job than the one you linked because it incorporates more of the picture. In my spreadsheet, if the warrior is wielding Death's Sting/Pugio and Edgemaster's Gauntlets, and replaces the gloves with Gauntlets of Annihilation, he only loses 3 dps on level 63, while gaining ~150 hp.

I want this to be accurate, so definitely go over it and look for mistakes and let me know.
I made some modifications to your sheet. I added item list so u can get item stats just by using the name. I fixed/ add some stuff in 2h, like: Added polearm spec in 2h, Added MS to the dps in 2h, Modified impale in white dmg, Added sword spec in 2h, Added Deep wounds in 2h, Added Rage Spent per Sec, Added abilities per x sec,
Changed execute in 2h

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Old 06/11/06, 2:28 PM   #27
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Impale doesn't affect white damage. Also, I'd like to keep control of the releases of this spreadsheet. You're free to modify it, but please note that in the spreadsheet if you decide to release. I don't want many versions of my spreadsheet floating around out there.

Additionally, I don't agree with your modeling of Deep Wounds since it's very easy to overwrite itself.

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Old 06/11/06, 2:49 PM   #28
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Problem with Thunderfury is it's alot harder to model I think. Or at least need a proc model included that is good, which tend to not be the case. I'm pretty sure that TF should beat all the pre Naxx combo at least due to it's "hability" to use more from to hit then normal combos via the proc and potentially haste.

Also for that list, the order would change assuming different buffs level. For example slow weapons are better with less buffs since you get more out of WW/OP but with full buffs, especially with WF, the faster your 1-h the more dmg you will do, changing the order. So at least a list that account for full buffs would be usefull.

Also you have to do 2-h imo. My own calculations tell me that 2-h is pretty close to what dw fury can do, would be nice to dispell the myth also that DW fury is all there is for warriors atm.

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Old 06/11/06, 3:01 PM   #29
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If windfury is available, 2H pulls about even with DW. Windfury is better for 2H because you can spam hamstring.

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Old 06/11/06, 5:38 PM   #30
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There is no problem with overwriting deepwounds, it just had a minor mistake. If u consider the chance that deepwounds is up at anymoment its 1-Chance to not crit all your atacks in the past 12 secs, that is 1- ( 1- Chance to crit) ^ Number of Atacks in 12.

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