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Originally Posted by Ashuko
3. Vael fight: for a guild at the point we're at - how important is it to put Blessing of Salvation on tanks to make the transitions more smooth? I'm assuming if you know what I'm talking about I don't have to explain how that works...I'd just like to know if it really is a good strat or not. I've heard a lot of good things about it but am having trouble generating traction for it.
4. Druids in BWL - again, at our point of progression - let 'em choose their spec or ask for restoration for now?
6. Healing on Vael - we're going with 5 druids on current tank target, 2 priests in tank groups PoHing, pallies spot healing...and for DPS groups priests/pallies. Good/bad?
7. How important is it to swap dead folks out of groups during the Vael fight so that priest group healing remains effective?
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3. Blessing of Salvation in a tanking order is nice if your warriors get it down but really consider the fact that you may be adding one more variable to your strategy that isn't required. There are a few ways to do tank transitions, if you are having Vael spin on warriors that are "out of sequence" consider tweaking your strategy. You could try using a staggered entry strat (if you have sufficient dps in the raid this works, however you need to dedicate the first 15 seconds or so to sending tanks in one at a time before an open fire) or try the "tanks on the far side" strat where after your MT has solid aggro send all your tanks in on the far side of vael (position raid accordingly to heal them PoH style) and make sure your warriors know when the current MT burns get ready to become the new MT. Whoever takes agg moves into the MT position in 2 seconds, tanks till he burns, next tank, repeat...
4. Depends on the player, if a feral druid can throw on his healing gear and keep up with the other restoration builds so be it. If an individual is clearly behind in heals within BWL and a respec would help they should be choosing to respec themselves for the good of the raid.
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Priests PoH constantly, and renew, shield, flash etc while PoH is on cool
Pallies Fulltime on current MT
Druids spot heal, hit HoTs, and watch tank transitions
Spread out paladins for FR aura (tank groups first priority), make sure your MT groups and Melee groups have priests
7. Don't worry about changing people on the fly especially when learning Vael, that fight is always tense for a first kill... One of the keys to the fight is having your healers adapt and cover when others explode. Ie, PriestA in tank group one goes down make sure the raid is aware of it and the druids\priests cover the warriors waiting in line with HoTs. Call it out "Group 6 priest is down, Cover them" Burning adrenaline can be merciless on occasion, your raid needs to know how to adapt and prioritize their healing if several healer catch BA.
It seems that your raid has the dps needed to take out Vael (proven through Rag) and the organization (proven through Razorgore) what you really need to focus on now is small tweaks to your strategy (positioning, group design, and handling transitions) and you'll get him down. Raids new to Vael don't normally wipe on lack of DPS its usually an agg steal, bridged cleave, someone not moving fast enough with BA, insufficient healing/fire resistance etc...
I'll say this though, we wiped on Vael for some time knowing we had the DPS to kill him easily. We spent some time reviewing his abilities and ours then adjusted our positioning accordingly and he was dead the next day.