We moralsuade people when it comes to loot. Most people are pretty reasonable if you aren't heavy-handed about it. If they aren't, you should ask yourself why. Maybe they aren't a good fit for your raiding group or maybe you don't understand the issue from their side.


If you're having trouble with determining which tank is next or having trouble getting tanks to move:
1) Make sure everyone has target of target set up in CTRA. Every tank gets a target box. They need to pay attention to that box.
2) Make klh threatmeters a raiding requirement for your guild if you still have trouble with the tanking transition. I was very skeptical of the add-in at first, but the thing is like magic for determining who's getting aggro next (also useful for Broodlord). It's a crutch, but a darn good one.

Tanks should never get cleaved, have them stand by the hind leg. Other healers need to pick up the slack, tell them to use emergency monitor. DPS should use tubers, healthstone/crystal restore, and emergency FR pots. The only reason to shift healers is if the healer for the OT's dies. Thankfully you don't have shaman so you don't need to worry about WF totems...

Also, if you get to 22% or so when the tank gets BA (and it looks like a good attempt) - shieldwall, it'll buy you more time for more executes later. Backstab rogues carry the raid's dps for the first 10% (I assume they vanish on first tank BA for you?) Executes win the day after 20%.

*Edit* holy hell, forgetting to notice there was a page 2 made my post completely out of context

Only the tubers and healthstone should be on the same timer. My understanding was 3 cooldowns: potions, offensive items, other nonaggressive stuff (tubers, ndb, healthstone, etc.)

Sidenote: anyone on test determined if this is a major handicap or not? We usually go light on assigning healers to DPS and compensate by using consumables if lots of healers die in an encounter.


Never underestimate the power of a well-timed NS heal on a tank when you're transitioning to a new one.

I'd say the moral of the story is: If your hunters aren't smart enough to pass melee weapons to melee classes, berate them in public, then implement priorities on weapons.

On a more serious note, most loot drama that I've seen has been because of unexpectedness. Class priorities eliminates some of that unexpectedness, as the highest rogue in dkp isn't going to be blindsided by a paladin who wants that CHT for a tanking weapon. People gquit when something doesn't go according to plan.

Our guild actually has a loot list, where people put their names down for things they would be interested in. If your names not on the list, you can't buy it unless there is no one on the list who wants it. What it does is easily show people (especially on cross class items) what's likely to happen on an item. If you're name is on the list you don't have to pick up the item, but the people below you know it's a distinct possibility beyond just "oh he's higher than me, but I don't know if he gives a crap about the item"