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Old 06/14/06, 6:11 AM   #1
 Hamlet
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I've always raided as Frost, so maybe this is a silly question. What's the explanation for partial resists at odd values (not 25, 50, or 75)? A Fire Mage told me about seeing lines like "Your Fireball hits for 600 (400 resisted)" or some such.


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Old 06/14/06, 6:39 AM   #2
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Ehm, afaik partials are, like you said 25%, 50%, 75% or 100%.

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Old 06/14/06, 7:09 AM   #3
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only thing i can think of, if the target of the spell has some kind of resist/dmg reduce-ability (priest, 1.11 shaman for example)
maybe it shows the damage prevented this way as 'resited'
could explain some odd values

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Old 06/14/06, 8:11 AM   #4
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AFAIK some damage reduction/enhancement are applied after resistance.

Per example a warrior in defensive stance resisting 50% of a 1k bolt may see "450 (500 resisted)".

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Old 06/14/06, 11:06 AM   #5
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Usually it's due to a crit. I don't rememer exactly how it works as I haven't been fire in almost a year, but when a crit is also partially resisted it doesn't work like you would think. If you were supposed to crit for 1500 on a fireball and get 50% resisted, it wouldn't do 750 damage. I believe the resist is factored before the crit. So like, a hit would have been 1k, and it was 50% resisted, it would take the "hit" down to 500 damage, then add the crit damage of 500 more on top of that, giving it a total damage of 1,000, and a combat log message of "Your fireball crits xx for 1,000(500 resisted)."


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Old 06/14/06, 1:07 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by annoraxX
only thing i can think of, if the target of the spell has some kind of resist/dmg reduce-ability (priest, 1.11 shaman for example)
maybe it shows the damage prevented this way as 'resited'
could explain some odd values
Spell warding just makes the numbers smaller.

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Old 06/14/06, 1:22 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by PapaShlapa
Usually it's due to a crit. I don't rememer exactly how it works as I haven't been fire in almost a year, but when a crit is also partially resisted it doesn't work like you would think. If you were supposed to crit for 1500 on a fireball and get 50% resisted, it wouldn't do 750 damage. I believe the resist is factored before the crit. So like, a hit would have been 1k, and it was 50% resisted, it would take the "hit" down to 500 damage, then add the crit damage of 500 more on top of that, giving it a total damage of 1,000, and a combat log message of "Your fireball crits xx for 1,000(500 resisted)."
Hmm, that would agree exactly with the apparent 40% resists.


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Old 06/17/06, 8:31 PM   #8
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I can confirm what is said above. Partial resists are calculated before anything else, so sometimes it looks like you didn't get a 25/50/75% resist when in actuality, you did.

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