The felhunter is immue to enslave demon.

And, it's probably obvious, but kill the tremor totem if you try to fear one.

we also noticed that Mass Dispell makes our priests very unfriendly, perhaps crowd control on one of the opponent raises your aggro on all of them.

Meaning that ban/fear on two or more opponents give you very high threat.

I suspect that cast interruption increase your aggro on all mobs.
I was on interrupt duty on the paladin with my DK and I got aggro of the warrior and enhancement shaman several times in a row

Did anyone else find this fight rather hard compared to the first 2? (And also mentioned by RL, "I dread doing this next week" as we wiped 7 times before giving up the healer first strategy and getting it perfect)

It was a good fight but, every week? Seriously... 5-10 mins every week where the fight is made or broken in 2 mins. Yea, boring fast


I do vouch for the 'cc, dispell, interrupt == aggro' statement. We had 3 rogues sap + a warlock control the resto druid, guess who generally got zerged first 2 rogues died within 10 seconds and warlock was generally next to dead 5 seconds later. We had to adjust our strategy to accomodate for this. I suggest you get a healer on each of the opening CCers and don't do a ton of CC at the start. Start with keeping everyone alive after the pull (we had 3 deaths after pull with 3 brez's seconds later), then 10 seconds in go with CC and zerg whoever is your main target and once they drop it is so much easier.
We did the kill order of Warlock -> SPriest -> Rogue -> Hunter -> Boomkin -> Resto Druid -> Resto Shaman -> Holy Pally (negligible imo) -> Warrior -> DK. To give reasoning and explain the strategy, Warlock stays where he is generally and spams Hellfire, since healers and casters also stay around there it will hit a LOT of people, so he had to die first. The rest are just general annoyance with healers 2nd last because they can be locked down easy and the melee do nothing if controlled right, Rogue exception w/ Shadowstep (EUGH!).
We had a shaman spamming Purge, along with everyone else spell-stealing, dispelling and tranq shotting whenever possible, and it made it so much easier. We had about 180 interrupts, no FoK spamming rogues, and about 70 or so dispells.

Interesting, fun, challenging, boring fast... 3/4 Blizzard, going well

Last night we managed to down the Faction Champs in 25 man and I found that spamming Mass Dispel was very helpful but mixing in some other spells helped me keep away from the assist train. I also saved Pain Suppression for myself if I did get ganged up on. One thing that was an absolute God-send on that fight was having Aggro Notification on Grid. I have my Grid set up so that the top left corner will be a red dot if the target has aggro. It made healing those who were being targeted much easier.

I am normally a shadow priest and went Disc only for this fight. Penance was a huge help as well as shields everywhere. I busted out 2-piece T7 to get the "one extra bounce" from prayer of mending. I noticed I got kicked/locked-out of my holy tree when I tried to pop my long CD Hymns (Hymn of Lots of Mana and Hymn of Lots of Health - both got kicked when I tried to channel them.)

I agree with previous posters in that this fight is won or lost in the first 2-3 mobs. After those first few go down, while the fight has 10 minutes left, it is over for all intensive purposes. We also killed the warlock pet first, it went down fast and helped us healers out quite a bit.

currently it is not dangerous to dispell the Unstable Affliction, the damage are not very high.

But I definitely won't do it in Heroic mode

I agree but I found that the 5 second silence is what was a major annoyance. I should note that I was not just flat out spamming mass dispel. I would cast a MD then 1-3 other spells to get shields or heals on other people, or drop fear bombs when it was on CD. Just spamming dispels (or interrupts as one of our shamans found) caused some major hate. I honestly think I spent half of my heals on one shaman who was just interrupting people.

Oh, by the way, rogue FoK interrupt spam is incredibly broken (good) for this fight. As has been touched on in this thread, it will be interesting to modify our strat once FoK spam is no more. Has anyone fought the Twin Val'kyrs yet? I've looked at some info on other websites from the PTR and a number of discussions on it but we don't raid until tomorrow night.

FoK Spam is still particularly good for Mutilate Rogues, allowing you to apply AoE Wounding, Mind Numbing and Crippling (Pending Talents) to the entire enemy team.

Just to confirm, I was able to attack my own snobold with no problems as an undead male rogue. Are other people really having issues hitting their snobolds, or is it just user error?

Gnome Rogue; couldn't attack them. With or without Noggenfogger/Deviate Delights.

As a caster I was unable to attack my own snobold due to los (it being on my back), but also AoE centred around myself (ie Arcane Explosion) didn't damage it either.

I could gain distance from my snobold by using invisibility as mage - after that the snobold was following me just like a normal mob with 100% speed - could gain distance via blink and slow him and kill him myself while kitting - it was at the end of a wipe and we were still fighting each other when the boss was allready reset.
Other then that aplying dots seem to work for every caster

I would like to add a question aswell - most of our healers were not able to see firedebuff from the 2nd boss in raidaddons like grid or decursive - any advice to heal the person with the debuff fast appart checking raidchat/listening to vent?