Given my current gear equiped and what in my bags found here http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?534762 would you guys suggest i change any thing gear wise. Im using the Dragon Breathe Handcannon right now over Rhok, i didnt notice any major change in over all DPS with the switch since the last patch normalized every thing unless some one can show me some numbers or some thing showing a big difference in dps. Also as of last night i got the plans to make the +3% to hit scope would losing the +7 damage be worth gaining +3% to hit or should i just keep the sniper scope? Im still waiting for a main hand hakkari blade to drop, id love to get the main hand hakkari and fang of hte faceless but face less isnt open to us hunters yet.

Keep the sniper scope - there's absolutely no reason to get any more +hit, you have 9 already. Also, it sucks that your guild has beaten ebonroc and FoF still isn't open to hunters but DFT is :P Since you already have the OH, might as well go for the other Hakkari blade.

yeah we have only had one FOTF drop and only one main hand hakkari. CHT went to a hunter last night for the first time (we are killing nef btw). I was the first in my guild to get the DFT its opend to hunters rogues and DPS wars, and when i won it i got my share of bashings for it from the rogues. also any thoughts on Dragonbreathe handcannon VS Rhok?

CHT is a perfectly acceptable replacement for FotF, the stamina you gain more than offsets the AP you lose. As for the DBHC, it's actually one of the better weapons, and I would go ahead and keep using it. It's arguably better than Rhok depending on what kind of cycle you use with it.

Looking at the stats and the math I've seen (Note: Seen, not done myself) Rhok and DBHC are more or less the same. Really, the big upgrade you should be looking towards, hobaz, is Ashjre. Maybe one of the theory-crafters can tell you which one is better, and under what circumstances (shot rotation).

PS: I still find it strange that FotF is not open to hunters, but CHT and DFT are. As I understand, CHT is the better offhand, no?

The only reason I would swap out sniper for biznicks if if you are missing shots or plan to upgrade your gear later and such upgrades will lose you +hit.

yeah we have a kinda screwed up set up bassicly once the rogues and warriors get the melee weapons its open to hunters as a off set to that we hunters are given all the ranged weapons and trinkets rings neck items stuff like that. when we started BWL all the hunters had Rhok when i took the DBHC we were not able to kill chromag now we are killing nef when hes not porting people across the room.. but to be fair to all the other hunters im not taking the Xbow until all the other hunters have it or some thing equal to it firstsame thing with the DS gear i got full GS so im passing DS onto those with out.

But i was thinking CHT+Hakkari off hand should be next inline for the CHT if i dont get the other hakkari blade first

If DBC = Rhok, there's no reason you should pass to the other hunters when Ashjre'thul drops. It'd be like a Rogue with Dragonfang Blade passing to Rogues with Perdition's on a Death's Sting or set of armaments.

The second thing is, with regard to Nef porting people across the room, there's a very simple fix: Stay out of the cubbies. If you stay out of the cubbies, the drakonids don't evade, they don't port people, and you win.

cubbies?

Cubbies = spawn points = hole in the wall

On the subject of hunter gear, since my guild seem to be set on doing MC forever even with our plea to stop going there, I decided to gear my alt. On paper I was looking for Wristguards of True Flight/tier 2 helm/legs, this is better in theory for stats but I lose the 8 pieces bonus from giantstalker (15% bonus to volley/multishot). How big is that bonus? Chances are I won't have more tier 2 pieces in a long time and even getting the bracer for the 3 pieces will be hard or impossible for months.

Is 8 giant stalker better then that hybrid set?

From my calculations the 8/8 Giantstalker set bonus works out to be roughly 4 dps with Rhok and MC gear. The "break even" point (for me) is right around 5 pieces of DS (superior stats + DS 3piece bonus finally makes up for the 8/8 GS bonus at this point.) So something like DS helm/legs/boots + Trueflight bracer +Black Grasp of the Destroyer (or DS in either of those slots) should finally compensate for and surpass the 8/8 GS set bonus. Of course, if you get your hands on the Crossbow of Smiting, your Multi-shot damage is going to massively increase, and it would probably be more along the lines of a full suit of DS before you could overcome the 8/8 GS bonus.

That much a diff for the crossbow of smithing over the epic? I haven't followed the hunter mechanic a ton but discounting the possible advantage on rotation for a 3.4 speed weap over 2.9, avg dmg on Rhok is 127, 155 for smithing, that's a 27 dmg difference? Over 10 sec that's 2.7 more dps on multishots? Maybe the bullets help slower weapons on multishots more?

You're right Thorb. I just ran the numbers and in full GS gear, swapping only Rhok and Smiting, if you extrapolate out how much damage is coming from the +15% GS 8/8 set bonus, Rhok gains 10.3 dps solely from the bonus, and Smiting gains 10.9 dps. The magic breakpoint of "5 DS* will finally beat (or at least match) 8/8 GS" should probably hold true no matter what weapon you are using.

* (or equivalent pieces like Bracers of Trueflight, Black Grasp of the Destroyer, Oss belt, etc., as long as you have 3 DS pieces in there somewhere to get the Aspect of the Hawk bonus)

8/8 Giantstalker is very significant. I'm not sure at what point it is worth breaking up, but if you're gearing up an alt with no shot at getting much tier 2 it's better to go for full Giantstalker. I'm still holding on to mine a good ways into BWL.

If you have a decent-ish crit rate (28-29% buffed) and 8/8 GS/barrage your average multi-shot should be around 1000. I figure 8/8 GS bonus is worth 10-13 dps depending on your overall attack power and crit rate of course. It should not be broken up lightly.