Guess this means we'll be getting naxxramas this wednesday (or Tuesday for the yanks). Didnt seem to me that they got much testing after all those last changes though, unless your PTR's Naxx was actually up the last week. So, how far do you think the fastest guilds will get the first week? In BWL they got to nefarian (exploit though) and in AQ they got to c'thun, though there is plenty of optional content to skip. I expect 1 or maybe even all wing end bosses to be reached, but I personally doubt any of them will be downed the first reset, though I've been known to be wrong.
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That post looks like it could be either tomorrow or a week from tomorrow. I think they are good to go, but maybe a little more internal testing (if there is such a thing) would make the zone the most initially polished 40 man yet, although that in-of-itself is not saying much.
a little more internal testing (if there is such a thing) would make the zone the most initially polished 40 man yet, although that in-of-itself is not saying much.
The have a poor track record, it makes it easy to improve.
Nax was not up on the US PTR, so I am not sure what that means. However, the PTR was working well on Sunday; usually they take them down before the patch.
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Pure speculation (friend of a friend at Blizzard kind of thing) but my side of the rumour says EU this week, US next. I hope he's right ;). They wanted it out last week where it not for the Gothik fight that apparently needed more tuning.
They'd never release a full patch on different weeks in different regions, and no offense but that sounds like one hell of a credible source. I wouldn't mind another week to prepare and relax, particularly since a largish portion of our guild will be away for the weekend, but I suppose now's as good a time as any.
Pure speculation (friend of a friend at Blizzard kind of thing) but my side of the rumour says EU this week, US next. I hope he's right ;). They wanted it out last week where it not for the Gothik fight that apparently needed more tuning.
There may be the normal 1 day difference (or 15 hours to be exact) but they would never do it in different weeks. And while the "by tomorrow" might seem to indicate you have to be done by then, I dunno, might not. Seems like the standard vague way of avoiding committing to something that might change. So my money is on this week, but that doesnt mean the odds are bad for next week either.
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That post looks like it could be either tomorrow or a week from tomorrow. I think they are good to go, but maybe a little more internal testing (if there is such a thing) would make the zone the most initially polished 40 man yet, although that in-of-itself is not saying much.
Did you miss the post where they said they retuned everything?
That post looks like it could be either tomorrow or a week from tomorrow. I think they are good to go, but maybe a little more internal testing (if there is such a thing) would make the zone the most initially polished 40 man yet, although that in-of-itself is not saying much.
Did you miss the post where they said they retuned everything?
Has any test group even managed to do extensive work on the "outer ring" bosses? I haven't heard of anything besides Death Touching being done on Maexxna, Thaddius, et al, to say nothing of Kel'Thuzad himself. Then again, I've never been in Immortality's groups.
To release the patch without substantial testing on these bosses- not to mention the 'retooled' versions of the rest of 'em- reflects to me a continuing ambivalence in Blizzard's attitude towards the handover of raid dungeon testing to the public. They're stuck between the BWL attitude (that allowing substantive public testing on raid bosses spoils the encounters for live, not to mention The Race) and the sobering lessons of that instance and AQ40's launches.
But why allow such freedom in Naxx testing if they're just going to stop halfway? Kel'Thuzad could be C'Thun part deux (Cel'Thunzad?) and we still won't know it until someone reaches him. I thought the entire point of thorough public testing of Naxxramas was to prevent just such an occurrence.
The outer ring bosses have been at least somewhat tested by public raid groups.
Is that since they were 'retooled' as per Tigole's last post? Seems the PTR, at least US-side, has only been up in fits and starts since then. I know I wasn't really able to get in any testing, but I wasn't trying particularly hard.
No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good.
Your presence on the PTR's was greatly appreciated.
I personally cant wait to reach the C'thun level cock block in each wing.
Just take more mages and brute force it, crybaby. ;)
God, I wish that was the easy solution to it :P
Originally Posted by Vykromond
Has any test group even managed to do extensive work on the "outer ring" bosses? I haven't heard of anything besides Death Touching being done on Maexxna, Thaddius, et al, to say nothing of Kel'Thuzad himself. Then again, I've never been in Immortality's groups.
No one has seen Maexxna, no real testing has been done to Thaddius, Noone has touched the revamped 4 Horsemen (I think >.< and since the new Instructor is... a completely diffrent fight) Noone has fought the tuned Loatheb (although he was tested).
Originally Posted by Vykromond
To release the patch without substantial testing on these bosses- not to mention the 'retooled' versions of the rest of 'em- reflects to me a continuing ambivalence in Blizzard's attitude towards the handover of raid dungeon testing to the public. They're stuck between the BWL attitude (that allowing substantive public testing on raid bosses spoils the encounters for live, not to mention The Race) and the sobering lessons of that instance and AQ40's launches.
Dont forget the retuning of almost every boss in Nax.
Originally Posted by Vykromond
But why allow such freedom in Naxx testing if they're just going to stop halfway? Kel'Thuzad could be C'Thun part deux (Cel'Thunzad?) and we still won't know it until someone reaches him. I thought the entire point of thorough public testing of Naxxramas was to prevent just such an occurrence.
In my eyes, it was to tune out everything, barring the last two bosses, who are subject to the amazing ability of the Internal Testing Team (with such an amazing testing record...) Instead, they let people test 80% of bosses, and then they retuned all of them, and before anyone could extensivly test any of the retuned ones, they took Nax off test.
No one has seen Maexxna, no real testing has been done to Thaddius, Noone has touched the revamped 4 Horsemen (I think >.< and since the new Instructor is... a completely diffrent fight) Noone has fought the tuned Loatheb (although he was tested).
That was my impression.
In my eyes, it was to tune out everything, barring the last two bosses, who are subject to the amazing ability of the Internal Testing Team (with such an amazing testing record...) Instead, they let people test 80% of bosses, and then they retuned all of them, and before anyone could extensivly test any of the retuned ones, they took Nax off test.
This is exactly what confuses me, and what prompted me to make the post that you quote here. If Blizzard were being conscientious about bringing a 'finished' instance to the public, damn the spoilers involved, wouldn't they at least have given the retuned versions a similar amount of time in the sun to their predecessors?
No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good.
Sounds like tomorrow to me, baring unforseen problems.
No promises as to when the patch is going live, but if I were you, I'd start working on that Argent Dawn rep by tomorrow -- either that or pillage the guild bank while the pillaging is good.
Sounds like tomorrow to me, baring unforseen problems.
Working on Argent Dawn rep doesn't seem like something you would start doing when the patch comes out... it's something you would do before the patch. The same goes for pillaging the guild bank before everyone does it. For those reasons, I think we've got another week maximum. This Tuesday wouldn't surprise me, though.
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Working on Argent Dawn rep doesn't seem like something you would start doing when the patch comes out... it's something you would do before the patch.
Correct, for that reason I now believe that the patch is Tomorrow.
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