Ok my guild is currently on Nef, however because of the nature of the shaman, druid and priest call I find it impossible to get any kind of regen going in phase 2 and phase 3. My two most likely gear set-ups look like this http://ctprofiles.net/812097 and this dsetup which uses all the peices of Earthfury I have:http://ctprofiles.net/1926103. I wondering if the people on these boards can suggest wether the 5 peice EF bonus is worth it or not?

Get Healpoints, and start having a look at the 'endurance' metrics it has to evaluate the sets. It takes 5pc EF into account (just not 8pc trans from memory)

To quantify: the EF bonus is worth .35 x .25 = 8.75% cheaper heals.

All you can really do on nef is be smart about your mana usage. Don't expect to have mana the whole fight, either. Don't use a pot right before a likely shaman call, don't just spam max rank lhw. With 350 +healing in that profile I'd use rank 4 lhw (or some rank of HW, it doesn't really fit the way I personally heal but obviously YMMV) to boost your mana efficiency. Get above 500 +healing and suddenly rank 3 LHW with purification is healing for 650ish a pop. Very nice stuff.


Edit: and in regards to 5 Piece EF, it really isn't worth it anymore, espically that the marginal utility of wearing the first three pieces is zero (wheras it was a very nice bonus prepatch) and there is much better stuff to wear out there

Get some Dreamless or Greater Dreamless sleep potions and use them during your class call. No totems, lot of mana regen, and the only downside is dispel happy priests (or Paladins, if you play Alliance).

Better be careful with this one. GDS-Pots do not prevent you from placing your totems, and oftentimes your own corrupted fire nova totem will abort the effect.

Awesome guys it worked, thanks for the info.

Our MT group consists of 3 shammys, the MT, and a warlock. We are all mana tide spec, we keep Tremor totems and use the Ancient Spring whenever Tide isnt up.

I spam rank5 Healing Wave, the 2 other guys spam rank 6 Healing Wave and Rank 5 Lesser Healing wave. All our heals are landing for around 800 on a constant basis.

The Shammies in the other groups just HW9 the tank at shadowflame calls.

On our first kill we had the 3 of us left to heal the tank after a bad phase 3. All priests and druids were dead. The 3 of healing took him from 17% to dead, regardless of our class call. Just takes alot of mana tides and alot of mana springs. WE also chug superior mana pots after every class call that isnt ours.

Confirming that you will still place totems while in dreamless sleep. My strategy for this fight is to stay relatively out of mana. When the shaman call hits I'll back out of range then chain cast max rank LHW, usually on the warlocks. Then you can continue casting rank 1 or 2 healing waves once you're out of mana until the shout ends.

shaman calls when you are at 50% really suck.

its a pain trying to blow all the mana you can on healing and dps just so it doesn't go to waste.

On the bright side, the shaman call was much more devastating to mana pools pre-1.11. It still sucks, but greatly decreased totem costs mean we're not losing over half our mana per call.

I had this feeling. If the shaman call happens just HW(X) around, better you heal/overheal someone than cast corrupted
totems.