I'm interested in what spec your shamans are this patch since they got a talent revamp.

We have a decent mix of specs. Before 1.11, none of us have mana tide. Now, I think we have 2 or 3 shamans, myself included, with the talent. We have some 21/0/30s, some 30/0/21s, some 0/30/21s, some 8/13/30, and more, I think.

My spec:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...20300510503151

No regrets at all so far.

I like the revamped Shaman talents, 0/30/21 on my Shaman, works great for me so far.

Notice everyone in EJ has NS, it is just too good to pass up.

Yeah, it's hard to really fuck up your spec too badly as a raiding shaman. Get 5/5 Healing Focus, get 1/1 Totemic Mastery, get 1/1 Nature's Swiftness (so 21 Resto). Anything else you do with the other 30 points will be just fine, really.

-5 toughness, +5 tidal mastery is the difference between mine and gurgthocks.

Gurg, what prompted you to get the toughness instead of tidal mastery? I am a pretty big fan of heal crits!

Oh, I also have 2 into improved reincarnation (instead of 2% mana reduction), which I initially put in just to test out and spec out of. However, I have found it to be very useful.

Gurgthock loves Earthshocking mobs in multi-mob fights and thus he needs the armor. Not that I'm saying him Earthshocking is a bad thing, it's nice for helping control certain situations.

I also took healing way, but I am not so sure I like it. I think Blizzard wanted to encourage shaman to do more than cast LHW and occasionally chain heal, which I am down with. I took the -5 talent on healing wave, and I use it almost exclusively on tanks now. I guess my problem is that I'm not sure I cast enough healing waves on a target in a 15 second span to make the talent worth it. And while it affects other shaman's healing waves, I have an inkling I'm one of the few in my guild who's actively trying to mix healing waves into the LHW spam.

I also took ELE up to that resist talent, but I'm not sold on that one either. Sure seemed like a good idea, considering how important resist gear is during certain fights, but I haven't really noticed any difference.

edit:

my spec:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...20300510053150

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...50350513540151

Seems to be one of the better "pure pve" builds. I originally had the healing way talents, and the Improved Healing Wave, but I didn’t use healing wave enough to justify 8 points. Threw them in ancestral knowledge and tidal mastery and never looked back!

When pve becomes less of a focus for me, I will probably spec something like this:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...50053510010100

The spec above purely focuses on survivability, which (In my humble opinion) was the biggest buff to the shaman class this last patch.

I was slightly disappointed by healing way since +healing doesn't affect it. Now it's just a focused version of purification which works with only HW. I think I'm the only shaman in the guild that has the talent though so I'll probably keep it for a while.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00330510553151

It doesn't? So base damage is multiplied by 18% and then +healing is added? Can you provide evidence to support this.

I had done exhaustive testing on this but this is all the data I have left right now. I'll upload more as soon as I get home from work.

http://rapidsharing.com/download.php?id=2F56C966

Edit: For clarification, the numbers in the D and E columns are theoretical while B, C columns have actual numbers.

The sample size is not large so the results might not be entirely conclusive. But from what I found, Healing way seems to work exactly like Purification. It's a flat +% to the base spell and doesn't use +healing with the multiplier.


Actual numbers are a lot closer to
[(Avg. HW) x 118% + healing coeff. + 5/5 Purification coeff.]
than
[(Avg. HW + healing coeff.) x 118% + 5/5 Purification coeff.]