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Timbui 06/28/06 5:47 PM

I'm interested in what spec your shamans are this patch since they got a talent revamp.

Bigman397 06/28/06 5:54 PM

33 Enhance, 18 Resto.... =P

(which is silly, because outside of Grinding, farming, or nef phase 1 I hardly ever melee)

WF crits for 800 with an aurastone are kind of silly though

Praetorian 06/28/06 6:04 PM

We have a decent mix of specs. Before 1.11, none of us have mana tide. Now, I think we have 2 or 3 shamans, myself included, with the talent. We have some 21/0/30s, some 30/0/21s, some 0/30/21s, some 8/13/30, and more, I think.

My spec:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...20300510503151

No regrets at all so far.

frmorrison 06/28/06 6:08 PM

I like the revamped Shaman talents, 0/30/21 on my Shaman, works great for me so far.

Notice everyone in EJ has NS, it is just too good to pass up.

Praetorian 06/28/06 6:09 PM

Yeah, it's hard to really fuck up your spec too badly as a raiding shaman. Get 5/5 Healing Focus, get 1/1 Totemic Mastery, get 1/1 Nature's Swiftness (so 21 Resto). Anything else you do with the other 30 points will be just fine, really.

Lurchington 06/28/06 7:46 PM

I think ny girl is currently using this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxVcdVMZEcbz0es

EllTrain 06/28/06 7:49 PM

-5 toughness, +5 tidal mastery is the difference between mine and gurgthocks.

Gurg, what prompted you to get the toughness instead of tidal mastery? I am a pretty big fan of heal crits!

Oh, I also have 2 into improved reincarnation (instead of 2% mana reduction), which I initially put in just to test out and spec out of. However, I have found it to be very useful.

Steelfleece 06/28/06 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EllTrain
-5 toughness, +5 tidal mastery is the difference between mine and gurgthocks.

Gurg, what prompted you to get the toughness instead of tidal mastery? I am a pretty big fan of heal crits!

Oh, I also have 2 into improved reincarnation (instead of 2% mana reduction), which I initially put in just to test out and spec out of. However, I have found it to be very useful.

Gurgthock loves Earthshocking mobs in multi-mob fights and thus he needs the armor. Not that I'm saying him Earthshocking is a bad thing, it's nice for helping control certain situations.

Jeht 06/28/06 8:52 PM

I also took healing way, but I am not so sure I like it. I think Blizzard wanted to encourage shaman to do more than cast LHW and occasionally chain heal, which I am down with. I took the -5 talent on healing wave, and I use it almost exclusively on tanks now. I guess my problem is that I'm not sure I cast enough healing waves on a target in a 15 second span to make the talent worth it. And while it affects other shaman's healing waves, I have an inkling I'm one of the few in my guild who's actively trying to mix healing waves into the LHW spam.

I also took ELE up to that resist talent, but I'm not sold on that one either. Sure seemed like a good idea, considering how important resist gear is during certain fights, but I haven't really noticed any difference.

edit:

my spec:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...20300510053150

Shabadu 06/28/06 9:02 PM

I've got a pretty bizarre build: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00323510023150

I am totally gay for the 3% to spell and melee hit, and I love my fire totems.

Oneeye 06/28/06 9:58 PM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...50350513540151

Seems to be one of the better "pure pve" builds. I originally had the healing way talents, and the Improved Healing Wave, but I didn’t use healing wave enough to justify 8 points. Threw them in ancestral knowledge and tidal mastery and never looked back!

When pve becomes less of a focus for me, I will probably spec something like this:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...50053510010100

The spec above purely focuses on survivability, which (In my humble opinion) was the biggest buff to the shaman class this last patch.

Bullbrain 06/29/06 1:31 AM

I was slightly disappointed by healing way since +healing doesn't affect it. Now it's just a focused version of purification which works with only HW. I think I'm the only shaman in the guild that has the talent though so I'll probably keep it for a while.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00330510553151

Fjord 06/29/06 2:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullbrain
I was slightly disappointed by healing way since +healing doesn't affect it.

It doesn't? So base damage is multiplied by 18% and then +healing is added? Can you provide evidence to support this.

CrazyDazed 06/29/06 2:14 AM

I think I'm the weird shaman. I do love being in melee group though (sometimes hunter group too!) :)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...50320510050100

Bullbrain 06/29/06 4:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fjord
It doesn't? So base damage is multiplied by 18% and then +healing is added? Can you provide evidence to support this.

I had done exhaustive testing on this but this is all the data I have left right now. I'll upload more as soon as I get home from work.

http://rapidsharing.com/download.php?id=2F56C966

Edit: For clarification, the numbers in the D and E columns are theoretical while B, C columns have actual numbers.

The sample size is not large so the results might not be entirely conclusive. But from what I found, Healing way seems to work exactly like Purification. It's a flat +% to the base spell and doesn't use +healing with the multiplier.


Actual numbers are a lot closer to
[(Avg. HW) x 118% + healing coeff. + 5/5 Purification coeff.]
than
[(Avg. HW + healing coeff.) x 118% + 5/5 Purification coeff.]


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