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Old 05/21/07, 10:29 AM   #1921
 Maestroquark
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Ramala
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Originally Posted by Talorn View Post
shnooshe (me) spreist
Soo ... how about that profile? Seeing as the only 70 Shnooshe that exists is on US's Blackrock.

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Old 05/21/07, 10:53 AM   #1922
Cybelirrae
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Human Rogue
 
Ysera
I will have to dig out my screenshots from our first kill (got our 2nd last night) on Leo, but melee is fine on this fight. You just need to exit a couple of seconds before he whirlwinds and then head back in. You can execute eviscerates or what have you up until the last instant before an aggro dump since rogue damage (other than rupture) doesn't leave any dots. I was 2nd or 3rd on our 1st kill and was in the top 3 last night as well. Fists/Swords definitely has a bit of an advantage on daggers during the final zerg.

These were with damage meters purged after the first 3 adds died, I might note. Even if you eliminate the damage done to your inner demon, I was still easily in the top 4. Now part of this is influenced by the fact that we make all our classes other than the melee group hide to avoid getting a demon so that cuts down on mage/lock dps a bit for sure. Once the patch is out and LoS doesnt work on demons anymore, I will let you know if this changes. The hardest part for effective melee dps is during the final zerg, but evasion and a limited invuln pot allowed me to live on our first kill and not die till just a tick after he died on our 2nd.

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Old 05/21/07, 10:19 PM   #1923
Talorn
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Originally Posted by Maestroquark View Post
Soo ... how about that profile? Seeing as the only 70 Shnooshe that exists is on US's Blackrock.
Sorry I don't get you. Yes I am on US Blackrock if thats what you are wondering.

[edit]

Oh... azjol, I see.

I'm from New Zealand, lived in the UK for a while, now I'm back in NZ. EU servers lag a bit from NZ, so I rerolled with my friends on Blackrock.

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Old 05/23/07, 3:00 PM   #1924
Ralask
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Human Warlock
 
Ner'zhul
Consumables were nerfed, items were changed, game mechanics were altered. Wondering from guild runs last night if they noticed any big changes on the meters? I expected to see rogues, fury warriors jump alot, hunters to move up and shaman, warlock dps to drop off. However everything remained very consistent from weeks before. Rogues shot up a few spots but other than that very little change. I can only reason that classes like hunter, warrior etc that get dps increases from stats were hurt the most by the consumable nerf. Anyone else see anything different from their runs last night?

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Old 05/23/07, 4:08 PM   #1925
Cyrithor
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by Ralask View Post
Consumables were nerfed, items were changed, game mechanics were altered. Wondering from guild runs last night if they noticed any big changes on the meters? I expected to see rogues, fury warriors jump alot, hunters to move up and shaman, warlock dps to drop off. However everything remained very consistent from weeks before. Rogues shot up a few spots but other than that very little change. I can only reason that classes like hunter, warrior etc that get dps increases from stats were hurt the most by the consumable nerf. Anyone else see anything different from their runs last night?
We cleared Hydross and Tidewalker last night, and from our boss dps sw_stats parses not much has changed. The Warlocks are still on top, our Rogues are #2, Shadow Priest(s) are mixed in, and everyone else seems to fall significantly behind those three classes.

From a Rogue's perspective on the changes, I'm enjoying the change. With the weapon and gear buffs, and the glancing change it "feels" like I'm fully raid buffed, flasked, and potted... and in a lot of cases (Tidewalker) my numbers were higher than previously especially when our dps group had Windfury.

So from a Rogues perspective the changes are positive.

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Old 05/23/07, 6:59 PM   #1926
Osse
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Orc Hunter
 
Stormscale (EU)
Finally got enough people attuned to The Eye and the profit:

http://surl.se/pictures/20075/48460.jpg

Was drinking normal mana pots so could do more dps. Also didnt pay attention on pet position so it dodged the reaver for almost half of the fight.

Was nice having pet alive through the entire fight even though I had over 110k healing done by the end of the fight. =)

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Old 05/23/07, 7:54 PM   #1927
Jyren
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Tauren Hunter
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Anyone in your raid called "Speedy" as well Osse?

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Old 05/23/07, 10:47 PM   #1928
Darkmantle
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Gnome Warlock
 
Spinebreaker
Originally Posted by Osse View Post
Finally got enough people attuned to The Eye and the profit:

http://surl.se/pictures/20075/48460.jpg

Was drinking normal mana pots so could do more dps. Also didnt pay attention on pet position so it dodged the reaver for almost half of the fight.

Was nice having pet alive through the entire fight even though I had over 110k healing done by the end of the fight. =)
That is an amazinly granulated damage meter
504
408
~404
392
303
289
Thats 66% more damage from you than the 5th person, was there a lack of support classes?

Also should it be good practise to post group composition if not linking a wws since group composition plays such a huge role in performance?

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Old 05/24/07, 12:33 AM   #1929
Neera
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Shaman
 
Drak'thul
Magtheridon (gogo BM)

Magtheridon kill today.

I only do the first cube them I'm free to DPS for the rest of the fight.

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...xo&s=3331,3977

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Old 05/24/07, 1:22 AM   #1930
Osse
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Stormscale (EU)
Originally Posted by Jyren View Post
Anyone in your raid called "Speedy" as well Osse?
Nope.

And its synced with 15.

Our groups were a bit off yesterday though, elemental shammy with four mages and second shadowpriest with healers. Resto shammy in tank group instead of Shadowrippers place. I'd imagine the damage difference comes from fast moving and instants during movement or something.

I would do WWS but I'm too lazy to log on after each wipe. (it was third pull though, heh) :|

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Old 05/24/07, 1:26 AM   #1931
Sh@ft
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Dwarf Rogue
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Osse View Post
That's pretty impressive for a hunter. I don't think our hunters even break 300k dmg on VR.

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Old 05/24/07, 8:39 PM   #1932
Jayde
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Our BM Hunter Class Leader was usually in the top 5 DPS pre-patch, however post-patch he is just tearing stuff up. Clocked in around 940 DPS with WWS on Gruul tonight, using no consumables (other than mana pots) that I'm aware of. No Shadow Priest, pretty non-optimal group. (Think he was in a group with 1 Feral Druid, and that's all.)

Pretty crazy, really.

His pet did ~26% of his damage, meaning it was pulling around 245 DPS on its own.

I managed to pull #2 at 806, which is pretty good for me on Gruul...even though I still got stalked by Cave Ins and had some really nasty Reverb/Shatter timings that knocked off our Scorch stack a couple times.

Not sure why Hunters have any reason to complain at this point.. BM Hunters are doing insane damage atm.

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Old 05/25/07, 4:08 AM   #1933
Osse
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Orc Hunter
 
Stormscale (EU)
Chain drinking fel mana potions is the only complain but I guess everyone else gets used to it. :p

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Old 05/25/07, 9:54 AM   #1934
Altima
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Undead Priest
 
Stonemaul
Our first Magtheridon kill!

http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...&s=11445,12151

This happened last night. Overall, it felt like the Channelers were going down slower than they did pre-patch. We consistently killed the 4th channeler just as Magtheridon broke loose in 2.0.x, whereas the 4th channeler was typically around 30-40% as Magtheridon broke loose last night. We used the two cube group rotation, and people on the cubes were

Altima (full time)
Clipsezilla (full time)
Jaacen (full time)
Viseren (full time)
Hakka (part time)
Deadtift (part time)
Midnightfang (full time)
Ataan (full time)
Kuromadoshi (part time)
Katsudon (full time)
Lamarcus (full time)
Durahan (full time)

The three part time people were most likely involved in some sort of clicking mix-up. No deaths until the 30% debris, which caused the death of some rogues.

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Old 05/25/07, 10:43 AM   #1935
Trezan
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Argent Dawn
I always laugh a little when people automatically assume that a hunter has his pet named after someone in the raid to top the damage meters.

A hunter is the easiest class to play and still get low - mid range dps and not have to try at all. However a hunter can also be played really well and be amazingly high on dps. I've also noticed that the times im able to reliably keep up Judgement of Wisdom (Far fewer than I'd like honestly), our good hunter's dps jumps incredibly.

http://ctscreens.net/6855

From one of our recent hydross kills (I think this one is pre patch however) and you can be sure noone in our raid is named zarathustra.

Oh yeah and our enhancement shaman is pretty ungodly too

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