Someone who can't type posts and eat at the same time. Edited with a fix, thanks.

I don't have full DMs onhand but I just wanted to note that we had an unbuffed (completely unbuffed, stam food and rum only) warlock do 679,079 damage in a 9min+ Hydross kill last night. Absolutely insane (270k to Hydross, 409k to adds), and a nice example of why AoE is the way to do this fight.

Yeah, the damage potential of a tightly-executed AoE strategy is jaw-dropping. The execution element is very crucial...a single add gets tanked too far away from Hydross and the other adds, and your damage just plummets. On the other hand, if executed properly a completely unbuffed/unpotted raid can kill Hydross comfortably within the enrage timer (last stand/shield wall through the last phase into 250% and you're golden).

The AoE strategy is a blast as a healer as well...having solo healed all 3 of our dedicated add offtanks last night, it really kept me on my toes.

Well, I am pretty sure we have the hydross WWS on the internal site.

If anything, I should mention that Ironis DPS on yesterday' Hydross was without any shaman in the group.

Right, this is what the top few spots looked like:

How many off-tanks did you use? Also, were other classes assisting on the adds or was it purely Warlock/Mage AoE and Multi-shot, Blade Flurry etc.?

We use our hunters on Hydross for NR aura for the tank groups, with no group support whatsoever. Remember, this is also with zero consumables.

Regarding the query above, here's the damage breakdown on the nature adds:

Why Hunter for the tanks instead of a Shaman for NR/FrR? Windfury?

Shamans have better things to do on Hydross. The tanks (two groups of them) get a paladin for FrR and a hunter for NR. The Hydross tanks get a warlock too for imp. (So one group is MT/MT/hunt/pal/lock and the other is OT/OT/OT/hunt/pal.)

Shamans either go in a pure DPS group or a group of a shadow priest and 4 healers for mana-regen synergy and lots of mana to fuel their chain heals.

It's nature so better to have WF tbh. :<

I'll do WWS for Hydross using lame tactic and see what kind of dps I'll do if pet dont die. It'll be silly if everything goes right I'm telling you. :P

Might as well edit it here:

~15% wipe http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=fq4uyvvfiebju

Just normal pots on everyone, no food buff as I forgot to take it. -.-

No warrior in group, pet would gain a few from that.


the kill = http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=b66y5btz2wve1
Pet died twice in a row pretty early and feed pet failed for three fd's.

Also didnt have major agi pot for that go.

Meh, I think its possible to reach 1.2k dps with flask when everything goes like supposed.

Have 37% ish crit with that group setup and buffs so the wipe one isnt even lucky, auto shot crit should be a lot higher. :p

Kill go being far from what it should be.

Our dmg meters tonight for leotheras kill.

No enhancement shaman, and the shaman that provides totems to the melee group died early.

Our first Lurker down below kill:

http://www.axemen.org/raids/ssc/Lurker%2015.05.2007/

hey, atleast we finally got to kill something in SSC

We haven't started Gruul yet, but we're looking ahead to it. So I got a question for ya.

How come I see Warlocks SO far ahead? Is it just because there are many parts where dots have the opportunity to tick but mages don't have the opportunity to cast? Is that it?

Ground Slam, Gronn Lord's Grasp and Shatter will cost pretty much all non-DoT classes a non-trivial amount of DPS time (I'd guesstimate at least 10 seconds for each one). Cave-ins don't help much either, because your first priority should be getting out of them, not finishing the spell you're casting, which probably adds up to a reasonable amount of spells interrupted halfway through casting. Plus of course, there's Reverberation, 4 second silence on everyone in the raid.

First Hydross kill:

http://www.sodraids.com/wws-20070514-2110/index.html

Wish I knew why my pet does so much worse than Osse's. I really don't want to level a Ravager.

Well you differ in only 1 way - the point in Animal Handler
Osse's pet has 2% more chance to hit than yours(I'm not sufficently versed in melee mechanics to know how this will affect glancing blows either)

The other point is that a windserpent has a +7% damage modifier compared to a +10% for a Ravager.
That would partially explain the difference in white hit values although i suspect there is a lot of glancing blow stuff that we can't see in Osse's WWS

39% on the 15% wipe and 36% on the kill is what I find.

Compared to 50% thats quite significant.
In addition, 20% miss vs 12% and a lower white average hit makes for unhappy pet numbers.

His pet might have more buffs whereas your's does not. Paladin blessings (kings/might), Enhancement shaman, battle shout, Leader of the pack. I would suspect this is why. Although it is a good point that windserpents are not ideal against hydross.

Had everything but BS but I think ravager owns wind serpent hard because of the FI procs and frenzy. :<

Edit: Think the data parsing is a bit messy for pet ability gains though, 1 unleashed rage on 15% wipe attempt and 5 FI procs but 14 frenzy? I dont think so. :p

Our first Leo Kill. Meters reset after add phase.

I can't help but feel that melee are useless on this fight since we can't bomb on him as ranged can during his ww phase.

http://i2.tinypic.com/5xt3d43.jpg