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05/23/07, 7:59 PM
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#1926
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King Hippo
Orc Hunter
Stormscale (EU)
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Finally got enough people attuned to The Eye and the profit:
http://surl.se/pictures/20075/48460.jpg
Was drinking normal mana pots so could do more dps. Also didnt pay attention on pet position so it dodged the reaver for almost half of the fight.
Was nice having pet alive through the entire fight even though I had over 110k healing done by the end of the fight. =)
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05/23/07, 8:54 PM
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#1927
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Glass Joe
Tauren Hunter
Nordrassil (EU)
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Anyone in your raid called "Speedy" as well Osse?
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05/23/07, 11:47 PM
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#1928
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King Hippo
Gnome Warlock
Spinebreaker
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Originally Posted by Osse
Finally got enough people attuned to The Eye and the profit:
http://surl.se/pictures/20075/48460.jpg
Was drinking normal mana pots so could do more dps. Also didnt pay attention on pet position so it dodged the reaver for almost half of the fight.
Was nice having pet alive through the entire fight even though I had over 110k healing done by the end of the fight. =)
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That is an amazinly granulated damage meter
504
408
~404
392
303
289
Thats 66% more damage from you than the 5th person, was there a lack of support classes?
Also should it be good practise to post group composition if not linking a wws since group composition plays such a huge role in performance?
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05/24/07, 2:22 AM
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#1930
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King Hippo
Orc Hunter
Stormscale (EU)
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Originally Posted by Jyren
Anyone in your raid called "Speedy" as well Osse?
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Nope.
And its synced with 15.
Our groups were a bit off yesterday though, elemental shammy with four mages and second shadowpriest with healers. Resto shammy in tank group instead of Shadowrippers place. I'd imagine the damage difference comes from fast moving and instants during movement or something.
I would do WWS but I'm too lazy to log on after each wipe. (it was third pull though, heh) :|
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05/24/07, 2:26 AM
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#1931
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Osse
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That's pretty impressive for a hunter. I don't think our hunters even break 300k dmg on VR.
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05/24/07, 9:39 PM
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#1932
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King Hippo
Night Elf Warrior
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
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Our BM Hunter Class Leader was usually in the top 5 DPS pre-patch, however post-patch he is just tearing stuff up. Clocked in around 940 DPS with WWS on Gruul tonight, using no consumables (other than mana pots) that I'm aware of. No Shadow Priest, pretty non-optimal group. (Think he was in a group with 1 Feral Druid, and that's all.)
Pretty crazy, really.
His pet did ~26% of his damage, meaning it was pulling around 245 DPS on its own.
I managed to pull #2 at 806, which is pretty good for me on Gruul...even though I still got stalked by Cave Ins and had some really nasty Reverb/Shatter timings that knocked off our Scorch stack a couple times.
Not sure why Hunters have any reason to complain at this point.. BM Hunters are doing insane damage atm.
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05/25/07, 5:08 AM
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#1933
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King Hippo
Orc Hunter
Stormscale (EU)
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Chain drinking fel mana potions is the only complain but I guess everyone else gets used to it. :p
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05/25/07, 10:54 AM
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#1934
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Von Kaiser
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Our first Magtheridon kill!
http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...&s=11445,12151
This happened last night. Overall, it felt like the Channelers were going down slower than they did pre-patch. We consistently killed the 4th channeler just as Magtheridon broke loose in 2.0.x, whereas the 4th channeler was typically around 30-40% as Magtheridon broke loose last night. We used the two cube group rotation, and people on the cubes were
Altima (full time)
Clipsezilla (full time)
Jaacen (full time)
Viseren (full time)
Hakka (part time)
Deadtift (part time)
Midnightfang (full time)
Ataan (full time)
Kuromadoshi (part time)
Katsudon (full time)
Lamarcus (full time)
Durahan (full time)
The three part time people were most likely involved in some sort of clicking mix-up. No deaths until the 30% debris, which caused the death of some rogues.
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05/25/07, 11:43 AM
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#1935
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Paladin
Argent Dawn
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I always laugh a little when people automatically assume that a hunter has his pet named after someone in the raid to top the damage meters.
A hunter is the easiest class to play and still get low - mid range dps and not have to try at all. However a hunter can also be played really well and be amazingly high on dps. I've also noticed that the times im able to reliably keep up Judgement of Wisdom (Far fewer than I'd like honestly), our good hunter's dps jumps incredibly.
http://ctscreens.net/6855
From one of our recent hydross kills (I think this one is pre patch however) and you can be sure noone in our raid is named zarathustra.
Oh yeah and our enhancement shaman is pretty ungodly too 
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05/25/07, 3:37 PM
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#1936
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Von Kaiser
Tauren Hunter
Archimonde (EU)
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Originally Posted by Trezan
A hunter is the easiest class to play
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[edit]
Last edited by Trieste : 05/26/07 at 3:24 PM.
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05/26/07, 3:58 PM
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#1937
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King Hippo
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Our first Magtheridon kill:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6...7211636en4.jpg
Notice how two people are suspiciously missing from Vathek's meter for some reason, yet all the other numbers match up. Any idea what would be causing this, different versions perhaps?
To clarify, the SWstats UI is mine, while Vathek reported in guild chat.
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05/26/07, 4:17 PM
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#1938
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Chief Passenger
Schizzle
Gnome Rogue
No WoW Account (EU)
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Is Milyana a deep frost mage? If so, my money is on pet issues - your meter may count it towards the owner's DPS, while the other meter may split it out. Owner consequently drops out of the top 5.
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05/26/07, 4:22 PM
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#1939
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King Hippo
Orc Hunter
Stormscale (EU)
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Merge pet.
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05/26/07, 8:04 PM
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#1940
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Trezan
I always laugh a little when people automatically assume that a hunter has his pet named after someone in the raid to top the damage meters.
A hunter is the easiest class to play and still get low - mid range dps and not have to try at all. However a hunter can also be played really well and be amazingly high on dps. I've also noticed that the times im able to reliably keep up Judgement of Wisdom (Far fewer than I'd like honestly), our good hunter's dps jumps incredibly.
http://ctscreens.net/6855
From one of our recent hydross kills (I think this one is pre patch however) and you can be sure noone in our raid is named zarathustra.
Oh yeah and our enhancement shaman is pretty ungodly too 
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A DPS warrior would be better for the DPS of the 3 rogues than you in that group. I'm also noticing that you have Grace of Air. Especially since 2 of those rogues are sword/combat, Windfury would do much more for group DPS there.
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05/26/07, 8:29 PM
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#1941
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King Hippo
Gnome Warlock
Spinebreaker
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Originally Posted by Osse
Merge pet.
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What happens if all water elementals are named the same then?
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05/26/07, 9:59 PM
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#1942
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Rogue
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Darkmantle
What happens if all water elementals are named the same then?
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frost mages need the extra boost anyways? 
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05/26/07, 11:56 PM
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#1943
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by songster
Is Milyana a deep frost mage? If so, my money is on pet issues - your meter may count it towards the owner's DPS, while the other meter may split it out. Owner consequently drops out of the top 5.
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Milyana was 40/21 Arcane/Frost I believe although he did respec for PvP (deep Frost) recently, so he may have had that spec during the fight.. And it may have been like you said, and Vathek did not have his setup to add in pet damage correctly.
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05/27/07, 3:50 AM
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#1944
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Glass Joe
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I think the rogue changes were quite substantial, for group composition I had an enhancement shaman and feral druid, no battleshout. This was a first kill. The only mistake in the log I'm aware of is that the frost mages water elementals can be found as a net total but no idea on the actual division to both of them.
I was not on a cube team, Azazal was not, and Ezeckial was not.
http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report...ugbbcq&s=5,708
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05/27/07, 8:06 AM
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#1945
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King Hippo
Orc Hunter
Stormscale (EU)
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Originally Posted by Darkmantle
What happens if all water elementals are named the same then?
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Then you switch merge pet off for a second, divide frost elementals total damage by the amount of frost mages?
Who's that deep in frost and raiding anyway?
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05/27/07, 9:19 AM
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#1946
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role != roll
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Pretty much copied and pasted from the Shaman thread:
From pre-patch Gruul to post-patch, I went from: 926 DPS -> 728 DPS.
This is with:
-Drakefist (Crusader) + Gladiator's Cleaver (Mongoose) and Hourglass of the Unraveller; to
-Dragonmaw (nothing yet) + Gladiator's Cleaver (Mongoose) and Romulo's Poison Vial.
Other than that, the rest of my gear was exactly the same. Both times I was completely unbuffed with no DPS pots/food and with BS/LoTP.
I gained a bunch of stats from the patch (my hit went up over 25% without me even stacking it), but my DPS still dropped by ~200 on Gruul. The ratio of WF procs to white hits roughly halved. Gruul obviously isn't the best fight to test things on (and my UI was also not as fine-tuned as it could've been), so I'm not ready to quit my shaman just yet.
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05/27/07, 10:44 AM
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#1947
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Mike Tyson
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This thread has been quite a trip, but it's outlived its usefulness.
The spirit behind it lives on here: The WWS Thread
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