Well, unless you're gearing all your hunters identically, you'll be best off having a mix of LR and TSA anyway because some gear is definately better for LR.

well now you're moving into a whole new nightmare, because what your really talking about now is comparative advantage - i.e. given that we might not get enough X drops, what is the next best thing for your hunters to grab. But they'll still do more damage in 5/31/15 even in slightly subpar gear or all the max agility gear.

Next point to ponder. Outside of raids (read PvP) how would you value the rank 11 gloves with +4% dmg to multishot compared with DS gloves?
-2 agi, -1% crit, +4% to multishot.

I guess if you reckon that more than 25% of your damage comes from multishot that makes them better, I reckon in a proper shot rotation you get about 1/3 of your damage from multishot, but that's not really that relevant to PvP. On balance it's probably not worth breaking up 8/8 DS for even though the 8/8 set bonus is of *very* limited use in PvP.

Last time I ran it through a sim, one of our hunters with 8/8 DS, Darkmoon, Shrouded Mist, Godslayer, Brood-Conquerers ring, Blackhands, Royal Seal, Barb, and Rhok was about 16 DPS better off with a LR spec than a TSA spec. I'll check it on Thugs sheet in a sec.

Edit: I'm getting an odd error when trying to click the buttons in Thugs spreadsheet using OpenOffice. "A Scripting Framework error occured while running the Basic script vn.sun.star.Script:Standard.<script here> Message: BasicProviderImpl::getScript: no script!" :(

Just finished running it through with entering the items by hand. LR Spec listed him as 602 DPS on a 9 second rotation when leeching TSA from another hunter, 586 DPS when not getting TSA. A TSA Spec puts him at 581 (I'm sure this would be higher if selecting Imp Hawk did anything) So in a raiding situation, like against patchwerk, this guy is better off LR.

That sounds wrong. It's not far off what I've got which is why I say it sounds wrong.

Thug - I'm playing with your spreadsheet and I like it a lot, the only thing is that the equations are not that clearly handled so I am struggling to see where it is going astray from what I am used to seeing in the Hunter Simulator - although I am coming to the conclusion that your spreadsheet is more accurate as I play around with it more...

At current agility levels your spreadsheet is implying a MUCH smaller gap between MM & SV builds than I had previously estimated for certain gear choices, as indeed Boevis had implied earlier - i.e. for high agility, relatively low base crit gear profiles, SV comes within a handful (as close as 5) of dps of MM build.

Meh don't want to turn this into a personal attempt to try and work out what's _more_ correct.. back to trying to find the glitch..

EDIT:- Thug am I right in thinking the numbers in the grey section T40:W62 in the calcs sheet is not working properly yet? Struggling to see what hitting the calc button does that just F9-ing the whole sheet doesn't.

I work at a bank so we disable auto-updating when u update a cell, so I hit F9 to force calculate the whole workbook.

But it doesn't look like any of those -1agi/-1crit etc values are actually showing up for me, as all the values in R45:R50 are identical, hence their partials are all 0, after I run the macro... :(

edit:- also, sorry to be a bore here, but it looks like (this may be due to said macro having a little "wrinkle") that "calculation" macro seems to be overvaluing AP & AGI relative to +%crit. i.e. valuing 1agi = 1%crit which is a bit of a stretch. That's leading to some strange item valuations i.e. Bloodsoul Shoulders > Dragonstalker.