For the spider pulls, we basically do what has been described here. However, this is why I love the EJ boards: The diversity. We have always been fine in the spider wing pulling and killing trash. The Abom wing on the other hand? OMFG do those slimes suck ass. :)

the trash isn't that hard. there's just too much of it.

The Heigan clear is like 5 minutes. It's worlds better than the Broodlord clear was when we were starting BWL.

Basically, if I can get from Boss A to Boss B in 15 minutes or less once I know what I'm doing, I think it's OK. If it takes more than 15 minutes I get irritated. If it's more than 30 minutes (sup post-Emps trash) then it's shitty design.

For the Infectious Skitterers, we have a warrior group taunt them and _try_ to get everyone else to single target the loose ones. Mages without Ice Block/invulnerability pots have a penchant for AOE here, the result of which is predictable.

For all the other spiders, mages/druids decursing players affected by the healing debuff and druids/paladins/shaman cleansing the poison dot should make the pulls mostly trivial for you.

We use a hunter pet to pull the larger packs in order to avoid losing a hunter to the web-spit-snare-portal.

That amount of trash after the Emps I believe would be a little more acceptable if there were more than two bosses to look forward to after those pulls. BWL has a nice long string of pulls between Firemaw and Ebonroc, however after that you got 4 bosses in a row with one small trash pull before Chromaggus. Nowadays those pulls aren't bad, but back in the day it was tedious.

Though, looking at the design of that hallway up to C'thun it is so wide, it almost seems when they were planning out the instance another boss was maybe planned to be put in that big round room before the big last stretch before C'thun.

If I had it my way I would go the way Gurg says removing those mobs and adding a Flamegor-esque boss that you would have to kill before going to C'thun. I think that would make the instance more bearable by people. I know a lot of people in my guild hate the instance and it makes me sad cause I love it despite its trash mob issues.

For the "multipacks" we have three tanks charge and tank the "get over heres!" and the poison spitters and have two hunters shoot the cursing ones. The cursing ones are amazingly easy to kite without any real fear of dying. We pull them out and kite them in a circle in a previously cleared room. (or even the entrance circle)

Random aside: was anyone else dissapointed the first time they killed the Emps and the scarab design on the middle of the floor didn't turn into a huge elevator down to C'thun? With just Ouro through that exit door? That would have Sooooooooooooo cool.

The little bugs in the spider wing are not bad as long as they aren't all on 1 person. Just split them up.. hunters, paladins, shamans, warriors all can tank. Have everyone plunk a bit then drop the ae's. Priest Holy Nova can heal the damage.

we found on the spitters that upon pulling, the poison volley is directed at one person just like the lava surgers will charge to one person over and over again.

Fun trick is to put that person out of line of sight. The poison volley fails. (He turns and does the shooting animation, but nothing happens).

Go go poor scripting!

Lava surgers allways surge the person farthest away but not farther than x.