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Old 07/12/06, 8:39 PM   #1
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The question mainly being what do you aim for your average heal to hit? Myself, I aim for around 1k-1.1k and then adjust whenever need be. I'm interested to hear what others do, even Paladins/Druids/Shamans.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 8:47 PM   #2
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On my shaman I use lower rank heals to hit the 1100-1300 range on my Healing Waves (rank 7), and about 800 on the Lesser HW (rank 4).
If I go all out I'm healing for around 2k non crit on the HW (over 4k crit heal) and 1400-1500 on the LHW.

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Old 07/12/06, 8:52 PM   #3
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I'm skeptical about the 1400-1500 LHW unless you mean with ZHC or something.

With Healing Way I can get regular max HWs for 3k, crit 4.5k. LHW in the 1340 range usually. My gear is close to optimal pre-Naxx.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 9:03 PM   #4
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Shaman in my guild (wears alot of leather, has roughly 800-900 +healing) can heal for 1400ish on a lhw. That being said, he normally deranks to rank 3 or 4 to heal.

I personally like to hit the 800 mark with my lhw (Rank 4 with around 650+ healing). Its what I have found to be a good number to shoot for to avoid overhealing.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 9:03 PM   #5
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What do they heal for? To keep people alive silly.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 9:08 PM   #6
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1250 on heal2, 3000 gheal5 and 1400 flash7

covers the 3 I most use, I dont bother to rank down below heal 2 however as its near enough to a free heal now already.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 9:09 PM   #7
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Max Flash Heal hits for about 1500 (2.3k crit), rank 2 Heal just about the same, slightly higher with spirit buffs (talent). Gheal I play around with ranks depending on what I'm doing (rank 1 if I just want to apply the Trans HoT, rank 2 generally for Patchy). I can downrank flash if I need, but generally I don't care much about overhealing on Naxx trash with spiky damage when I don't go OOM. I'm sure I could be more efficient, though; I'm a noob.

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Old 07/12/06, 9:12 PM   #8
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basically it's here:
http://www.lurchington.com/misc/prie...r_preview2.xls

my renew rank 9 tick is 315

http://ctprofiles.net/48987


also, I thought you meant "why are you a healer?" :o
 
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Old 07/12/06, 9:39 PM   #9
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Rank 7 Flash: 1450~ Renew Tick: 428 Rank 2 Heal: 1300~

http://ctprofiles.net/618689 - healing gear

I'm curious about shaman healing, do shamans typically use cloth and leather like paladins to boost their healing effectiveness? I know shaman healing itemization is pretty shit and more bent towards +dmg and +crit.
 
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Old 07/12/06, 10:21 PM   #10
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Flash of light 6 heals for 930, FoL 1 for 600

Holy Light 4 for 1400 and HL 9 for 2900.

That's all with Blessing of Light though.

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Old 07/13/06, 9:34 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Pand
Rank 7 Flash: 1450~ Renew Tick: 428 Rank 2 Heal: 1300~

http://ctprofiles.net/618689 - healing gear

I'm curious about shaman healing, do shamans typically use cloth and leather like paladins to boost their healing effectiveness? I know shaman healing itemization is pretty shit and more bent towards +dmg and +crit.
The only ones I've seen do this, ironically, are more elemental specced than anything. I can't say I've seen many resto-heavy, or enhancement/resto shaman not using mail.
 
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Old 07/13/06, 10:26 AM   #12
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I like to keep around 1k primary heal (HW5 with Healing Way). Rank 7 LHW/ Rank 3 Chain Heal are always on my hotbar. Rank 10 healing wave bound to an NS macro.

http://ctprofiles.net/1606338

I can spam rank 5 healing wave with an interupt macro for what seems like months. Rank 3 HW is below my regen rate when I'm raid buffed. Its fun for linear damage fights.
 
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Old 07/13/06, 11:07 AM   #13
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Since no druids have replied I'll toss in my 2 cents.

Rank 4 is my primary heal. I keep rank 4, rank 7, and rank 11 Healing Touch on my bar. I hardly ever use 7 unless somehow some healers died and i need to put out some more healing/second. Rank 4 heals for between 950-1050 and crits for around 1450. Its a 2.5 second cast and it only costs 166 mana so I can just pretty much spam it forever without going oom. With spamming heals for only about 1k each, I do notice my overhealing has gone a lot down and my efficiency has gone way up.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:15 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
I'm skeptical about the 1400-1500 LHW unless you mean with ZHC or something.

With Healing Way I can get regular max HWs for 3k, crit 4.5k. LHW in the 1340 range usually. My gear is close to optimal pre-Naxx.
Nope no ZHC. I've got +758 healing on my shammy, all mail - no leather/cloth, along with the Fang from the AQ quest.
Here's my CT Profile - http://ctprofiles.net/3224
I wear the stormcaller head and shoulders and 5 TS (never got the belt, still have the EF belt).

I may have over-estimated (I've been playing a warrior lately and haven't been on my shaman too much this month) so it may not be as high as 1400, but I know for a fact my LHW at max rank, non crit, hits for at least 1200. My chain heal crits do something like 1200-1400 on the first target I think (I don't use a lot of chain heal so I don't remember off the top of my head). My HW crits are 4k with no Healing Way on the target, pushing 4.5k-4.6k with full Healing Way on.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:18 AM   #15
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Oh man, Neltharion's Tear.

Yeah, I think you just overestimated a bit. I have a bit less +healing than you (663) and consistently get around the mid-1300s noncrit, with the +80 to LHW trinket, so 1400-1500 seemed a bit farfetched. 1400+ will definitely be possible with Naxx gear, though. When I'm done with Naxx I'll have over +1000 healing. :o

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Old 07/13/06, 11:19 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by LurchDawg
Originally Posted by Pand
Rank 7 Flash: 1450~ Renew Tick: 428 Rank 2 Heal: 1300~

http://ctprofiles.net/618689 - healing gear

I'm curious about shaman healing, do shamans typically use cloth and leather like paladins to boost their healing effectiveness? I know shaman healing itemization is pretty shit and more bent towards +dmg and +crit.
The only ones I've seen do this, ironically, are more elemental specced than anything. I can't say I've seen many resto-heavy, or enhancement/resto shaman not using mail.
We have a druid in the guld that likes to promote all healing classes moving to leather/cloth for the better healing gear, but I think it defeats the purpose of having a healer (pally or shaman) who can mitigate damage. I wear all mail and have 50% dmg reduction against a lvl 60 mob, and while that may not matter much at all in MC or BWL, in AQ and Naxx where mobs are doing a ton of Cleaves/Whirlwind type effects it helps a LOT in my opinion to have a healer that can survive the fight. The shaman in my guild are often the last stand healers left up on the C'thun trash when one of the mobs rampages through all the clothies.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:22 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Oh man, Neltharion's Tear.

Yeah, I think you just overestimated a bit. I have a bit less +healing than you (663) and consistently get around the mid-1300s noncrit, with the +80 to LHW trinket, so 1400-1500 seemed a bit farfetched. 1400+ will definitely be possible with Naxx gear, though. When I'm done with Naxx I'll have over +1000 healing. :o

This is my set: http://ctprofiles.net/32681
Yah... you may recall that I had the post asking about Free For All bidding vs Zero-Sum systems.... well that Nelth's tear was the result of our FFA system. I had a rejuv gem and picked up the 3rd or 4th Tear when it dropped for the extra +healing. I feel bad about it now, but I was just playing by the rules of the system at the time. :(

I'll check for sure tonight using the TheoryCraft mod and I'll send you a PM with my healing ranges for comparison.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:23 AM   #18
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And yes, I would never consider wearing leather or cloth, for the reasons stated. One of the main reasons to bring a shaman as a healer is our durability. If I wore cloth I still wouldn't heal as efficiently as a priest and I'd be a whole lot squishier. I have 7350 armor with Mark these days, and really can handle almost any untanked trash mob beating on me, and it's a major asset, even if I annoy the hell out of my guild by extolling the virtues of Toughness.
 
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Old 07/13/06, 11:41 AM   #19
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Well, the healing ranks I commonly use, rank 4 and 5 also rejuv/regrowth

rank 4 - I do about 1100-1200 non crit and 1600-1800 crit
rank 11 - I do about 3400-3600 non crit and 5200-5800 crit
Rejuv with idol - 457 per tick
Rejuv without idol - 444 per tick
Regrowth - 1450 non crit 2100 crit

The only time I would consider wearing cloth over leather really is in an extreme situation or resistences, and thats only if there is no other option.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:48 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Pand
Rank 7 Flash: 1450~ Renew Tick: 428 Rank 2 Heal: 1300~

http://ctprofiles.net/618689 - healing gear

I'm curious about shaman healing, do shamans typically use cloth and leather like paladins to boost their healing effectiveness? I know shaman healing itemization is pretty shit and more bent towards +dmg and +crit.
I used padre's trousers a long time ago till ef legs dropped.

 
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Old 07/13/06, 11:55 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Hitogeki
Well, the healing ranks I commonly use, rank 4 and 5 also rejuv/regrowth

rank 4 - I do about 1100-1200 non crit and 1600-1800 crit
rank 11 - I do about 3400-3600 non crit and 5200-5800 crit
Rejuv with idol - 457 per tick
Rejuv without idol - 444 per tick
Regrowth - 1450 non crit 2100 crit

The only time I would consider wearing cloth over leather really is in an extreme situation or resistences, and thats only if there is no other option.
I wear Empowered Leggings with a ZG enchant, but I guess I would wear Stormrage if I ever seen them drop. I've been doing MC since September of last year and have seen them drop once. QQ

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Old 07/13/06, 12:05 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by hamlet
I'm curious about shaman healing, do shamans typically use cloth and leather like paladins to boost their healing effectiveness? I know shaman healing itemization is pretty shit and more bent towards +dmg and +crit;

I used padre's trousers a long time ago till ef legs dropped.
Mail/Plate +healing MP5S gear is lacking in 5 man dungeons. 1.10 added some, but still there is much more cloth/leather healing itemization. When guilds first start MC, you will see cloth/leather on Pallys/Shaman.

Even in the raid game, I do see a few Shaman/Pally wearing cloth items, but most just use their class sets.

Padre's Trousers is one of the best blues for healing, at least until you hit ZG/AQ20.

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Old 07/13/06, 1:01 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Oneiros
I wear Empowered Leggings with a ZG enchant, but I guess I would wear Stormrage if I ever seen them drop. I've been doing MC since September of last year and have seen them drop once. QQ
we had a curse with chest pieces, in something like 4-6 months not one cenarion chest dropped.
Even then I refused to wear cloth, although I do know one of our druids did.
Although at the time there were very few leather chest pieces worth wearing, now there are several good blue ones and the zg one.
Thankfully we had much more luck with the stormrage chest. Wish I could say that about the shoulders and gloves.

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Old 07/13/06, 1:04 PM   #24
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I heal because I have to in raids to get the feral gear I want...............................oh wait..thats not what we were talking about was it? My bad.

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Old 07/13/06, 1:07 PM   #25
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Not gonna lie. I'd take Shimmering Geta or Boots of Pure Thought over Ten Storms any day. And there a few amazing leather healing pieces in Aq40 that would be an upgrade over anything 10 storms and possibly Stormcaller's.

I just enjoy having enough armor to survive a loose Sartura or a few hits from a Wyrmguard. I even had a GM swap my ZHC to a ZHB as I found it would have more utility in certain PvE encounters (Sartura), then replacing my reguv gem or shard of the scale for an extra 340 on my Healing Wave every 2 minutes.
 
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