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Old 07/13/06, 11:14 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
It is also adorable when Rachel and Zibro tank together.
Please provide screenshots so that we may evaluate the cuteness factor.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:25 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by red
From my experience, rogues I've played with more often than not are the "twitch" type. While we're waiting around or discussing something, I often see like 3 or 4 people in the raid jumping around in circles, and 9/10 times it's the rogues.

I do it too, while not even realizing it. After a raid when I'm thinking about what to do next or talking on vent, I'm subconsciously doing jumping laps around the top of the bank in orgrimmar.
LOL I do the exact same stuff Red.

The GM for my guild is a mage.

We have two females in the guild and they both play druids.

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Old 07/13/06, 11:59 PM   #33
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3 Girls in my guild, 2 druids and one priest all fairly hardcore healers, I noticed this trend too :o

Also notice how many male players play female chars but it is very rare I find to see female players playing males. Females also seem alot more concerned about how their chars look, all the girls in my guild collect special sets of nice looking gear they use when they not raiding.

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Old 07/14/06, 12:08 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Zagzil
From my experience every single priest I know or have ever played with fits into 3 personality categories;

1. Quiet, super-healbot (robo-gamer). A few priests in my guild who are insanely good but basically are very quiet and generally great raiders, fit this category. Two of them even make quite a bit of money playing other games.

2. Type-A Leadership Know-It-All guys. They think they're the best, (sometimes know they're the best) but generally are very opinionated, talk a lot, and pretty much rolled a priest because they think they're the best and don't trust others to do the healing.
I was both #1 and #3 originally, but as I got more and more into the game (w/respect to enthusiasm and experience), flashes of #2 would appear now and then. I avoided talking on vent/TS - both because I was shy and because I didn't want to risk venting on some nub too hard. I don't *think* I was ADD jumpy before I levelled and started playing my Rogue, but I sure was afterwards. On my Warrior, I mostly let the Type-A side come forth - it seemed to suit the class role more. I was ALWAYS the Priest whispering the tanks to go get more stuff to kill and jumping around impotently while they waited for mana and the go-ahead.

I think the mathematically inclined are drawn towards DPS and tanking classes. Maximization problems are much more rich than healer theorycrafting, which depends so much on the outcome of mitigation rolls and personal timing/style. Gear raises the caps on your longevity and power, but once you meet the demands of an encounter there's little point in further optimization. It's not that I'm addicted to big numbers, I just like some measurable feedback from my theorycrafting.


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Old 07/14/06, 12:24 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by malthrin
I think the mathematically inclined are drawn towards DPS and tanking classes. Maximization problems are much more rich than healer theorycrafting, which depends so much on the outcome of mitigation rolls and personal timing/style. Gear raises the caps on your longevity and power, but once you meet the demands of an encounter there's little point in further optimization. It's not that I'm addicted to big numbers, I just like some measurable feedback from my theorycrafting.
I dunno. I see a lot of Warriors who still think armor has diminishing returns...Mathematicians they are not.

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Old 07/14/06, 12:37 AM   #36
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DPS is a science, Healing is an art.

Poetic asides aside, i've never encountered a female WoW-player that wasn't a healer.

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Old 07/14/06, 12:49 AM   #37
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I think the mathematically inclined are drawn towards DPS and tanking classes. Maximization problems are much more rich than healer theorycrafting, which depends so much on the outcome of mitigation rolls and personal timing/style. Gear raises the caps on your longevity and power, but once you meet the demands of an encounter there's little point in further optimization. It's not that I'm addicted to big numbers, I just like some measurable feedback from my theorycrafting.
I'd agree with that - all the people in my guild who're seriously into min/maxing and theorycraft are rogues, warriors, and the occasional mage (i think all of them at least lurk here, too - coincidence or correlation?). I'd kill for some more theorycraft-inclined people playing other classes, though (i think we have a grand total of one marks hunter in the guild :( i've tried explaining to the others, but they all suffer from a bad case of LR-induced big-number addiction, with one or two even having a thing for Wyvern Sting...).

As for female players, we've got something like eight of so iirc, including semi-inactive ones (our ex-GM did NOT have a policy of attempting to recruit any girls he discovered on the server. Honest), and only 3 of them are healers i think (two priests and a shaman), with the rest being a mix of mages, warlocks, and rogues, so no real trend there.

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Old 07/14/06, 12:51 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by Dozer
DPS is a science, Healing is an art.

Poetic asides aside, i've never encountered a female WoW-player that wasn't a healer.
See women playing hunters a lot too.

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Old 07/14/06, 1:05 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
Now imagine if one of them was one of your MTs.
Well, I can't imagine EJ would use a MT that didn't know how to play. It's the rogues that have top 3 gear, and sit at 20th on meters that irk me. Again, not my situation, but not something I'd be happy about if I were a raid leader.

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Old 07/14/06, 1:58 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by red
I often see like 3 or 4 people in the raid jumping around in circles, and 9/10 times it's the rogues.

I do it too, while not even realizing it. After a raid when I'm thinking about what to do next or talking on vent, I'm subconsciously doing jumping laps around the top of the bank in orgrimmar.
Sidenote - jumping up and down is probably one of the best features in WoW. You are waiting for 5th guy join the group for instance? Jump... Healing setup is organized before the boss fight and you have to wait? Jump...

It's great way to give players something to do (no matter how stupid it sounds), significantly limiting chat spam and AFKs.

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Old 07/14/06, 1:59 AM   #41
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1 druid, out of 9.
3 hunters, out of 8.
No mages, no paladins (although 3 or 4 of the paladins are Canadian, which is sort of like being a woman. - 7 mages, 8 pallies)
3 priests, out of 8.
1 rogue, out of 9.
2 locks, out of 6.
2 warriors, out of 7 (one tank, one DPS)

Total female content: 12/62.

Our hardcore minmaxers are me, one of our DPS warriors, one of our tanks, one of our mages, and one of our hunters. The tank is female, the rest are guys.

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Old 07/14/06, 7:40 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Elendril
not exactly a personality thing, but i had one of our priests comment on the difference between the way i make groups and the way our healer officers make groups in a raid. i aim to build the most efficient groups to maximize buffs like trueshot aura/battle shout/paladin auras, while priests making groups tend to focus on having secondary healers in groups with warriors to maximize group-contained survivability.
Amen. When I'm making the groups I usually have 2-3 of our healers take turns whispering me that I have to give up either TSA, battleshout or LotP if I want heals. Makes me sad, although admittedly, I tend to die less when I follow advice. I'm thinking I should try to convince my guild to give Atiesh to a priest just so I have an excuse to stick 5 healers in their own group together and instruct them to keep my wtfpwn dps groups alive :P

Anyways, on topic, the lines blur once you get serious with alts. I'm almost at the point where my movement patterns and habits during idle time are the same on my rogue and mage.. I'm a bit more patient on rogue, less jumping around.. Probably because I have to compress it to a shorter timespan on mage due to being forced to sit still while drinking.

Our guild has 3 girls out of around 75 active members. Destro warlock (guildmaster), ms warrior, hotw/ns druid.

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Old 07/14/06, 8:04 AM   #43
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I think i am the guy with most jumps done in our raids, and i am a priest. I did play a rogue for the first 5 months after the game came out tho.

As for women we have 1 druid, 1 paladin (raid leader), 3 priests, 1 lock and 2 warriors.

Back in the days when there was just three big guilds on my server, all were lead by hunters.

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Old 07/14/06, 8:07 AM   #44
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Our one female raid member is a mage, our second was a rogue (got kicked for persistent stupidity). Our potential new second girl plays a priest after switching from an offtank.

Since I didn't originally roll a rogue I was surprise to see how switching a class can change your behaviour. When I played my pally, I did it very stoicly. If I didn't have anything to do, I stood still and waited. People jumping around made me nervous.
Since I rerolled this has changed completely. When I am talking in TS while being in IF I tend to jump across the ditch or into it...Then I saw a rogue colleague stealthing large rounds through the different quarters of IF. Rogues are definitely twitchy and quite a lot are minmaxers...though not all of them.

Tanks on the other hand often tend to be very stoic.

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Old 07/14/06, 8:08 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Dozer
Poetic asides aside, i've never encountered a female WoW-player that wasn't a healer.
One of the nicest, most polite females I've ever met in game is one of our guild's MTs.

If there's one pattern I've noticed about females in mmorpgs, its that they don't play a character of the opposite gender nearly as often as males.

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