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Old 08/22/06, 12:26 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Shik
Whats the % proc chance for the 2pc Dreamwalker (druid t3) bonus? I found the spell on thott, but carries no additional data. I figured some EJ druids must have it by now.
Our druids said it's something like 20% chance per tick on highest rank rejuv. Lower ranks have a much lower proc chance.

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Old 08/22/06, 12:36 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by BeavisNuke
Can anyone with 4 piece frostfire tell me how much it procs and if it stacks with itself?

http://www.thotbott.com/?sp=28764

Also, do you find it actually useful?
http://www.thotbott.com/?sp=28764 > Chance: 20
so a 20% procrate

if it stacks it would make for a pretty good pvp proc, get a bit of luck and suddenly 35-70-105 higher resists, not to shabby :p

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Old 08/22/06, 12:38 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by Shik
Whats the % proc chance for the 2pc Dreamwalker (druid t3) bonus? I found the spell on thott, but carries no additional data. I figured some EJ druids must have it by now.
It procs a lot. And it makes druids have a Holy Spellcasting animation, which is pretty swell.

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Old 08/22/06, 12:52 PM   #79
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My 2 peice procs a lot with plagueheart its about 1-4 SB

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Old 08/22/06, 12:53 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by Andrise
Originally Posted by Shik
Whats the % proc chance for the 2pc Dreamwalker (druid t3) bonus? I found the spell on thott, but carries no additional data. I figured some EJ druids must have it by now.
It procs a lot. And it makes druids have a Holy Spellcasting animation, which is pretty swell.
i wish they would remove the spell casting animation from it, since it confuses me to no end if it procs while i am casting another heal. my brain somehow registers my current cast as having finished so i try to start a new cast, then usually sit there after another second when my ORIGINAL cast has ended and wondering why im not doing anything.

other than that the proc chance is really high like already mentioned, having 3 procs on one rejuv happens quite a lot though im still feeling a bit mixed about the actual benefits. mana users generally love it, on warriors having 2 extra rage rarely seems to make a difference since it usually only procs (of course) when they are sitting there tanking with a full rage bar, and i dont think the rogues have noticed the extra energy yet.

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Old 08/22/06, 12:57 PM   #81
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other than that the proc chance is really high like already mentioned, having 3 procs on one rejuv happens quite a lot though im still feeling a bit mixed about the actual benefits. mana users generally love it, on warriors having 2 extra rage rarely seems to make a difference since it usually only procs (of course) when they are sitting there tanking with a full rage bar, and i dont think the rogues have noticed the extra energy yet.
It seems like a nice side effect during the normal course of their healing, but it isn't something you need to go out of the way to try to keep up. As a rogue, I barely noticed the energy ticks, and it's rare that I can actually do something extra with them.

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Old 08/22/06, 12:58 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by Nemesis
Originally Posted by BeavisNuke
Can anyone with 4 piece frostfire tell me how much it procs and if it stacks with itself?

http://www.thotbott.com/?sp=28764

Also, do you find it actually useful?
http://www.thotbott.com/?sp=28764 > Chance: 20
so a 20% procrate

if it stacks it would make for a pretty good pvp proc, get a bit of luck and suddenly 35-70-105 higher resists, not to shabby :p
From what the mage in our guild says it doesnt stack with itself, and sadly only the arcane one has a cool and showing proc (it puts the green bubble mobs have when they go immune to magic), while the other ones have the same animation as the shaman trinket from BWL, a swirl kinda thing, of the color representing the school of magic :/

One of our druid got the 2-pieces set and he says that the casting animation actualy make him stay in the 5-second rule, has anyone else noticed that ?
He also said that it seems to proc more when using the max rank rejuv vs rank 1

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Old 08/22/06, 1:07 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by Darkchani
One of our druid got the 2-pieces set and he says that the casting animation actualy make him stay in the 5-second rule, has anyone else noticed that ?
He also said that it seems to proc more when using the max rank rejuv vs rank 1
The procrate definitely scales with the rank of rejuv being used.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:14 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Darkchani
One of our druid got the 2-pieces set and he says that the casting animation actualy make him stay in the 5-second rule, has anyone else noticed that ?
The thott entry doesn't have a mana cost with the proc, so it is very unlikely that the casting animation does anything to the 5SR.

If the druid needs help with knowing when he is out of the 5SR, there are mods for that.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:16 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
Originally Posted by Darkchani
One of our druid got the 2-pieces set and he says that the casting animation actualy make him stay in the 5-second rule, has anyone else noticed that ?
The thott entry doesn't have a mana cost with the proc, so it is very unlikely that the casting animation does anything to the 5SR.

If the druid needs help with knowing when he is out of the 5SR, there are mods for that.
What he said, it's VERY unlikely that it's breaking the 5 second rule, as nothing that is 0 mana seems to in my experience.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:26 PM   #86
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The Earthshatter 6 Piece is in fact 10% just like Thottbot says and the procrate again scales with ranks of heals. Another cool thing is the buffs stack really nice for the warrior buff.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:30 PM   #87
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Theo are you saying the shaman 6pc stacks? Or you mean something else stacks with it?

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Old 08/22/06, 1:32 PM   #88
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I mean 2 Shamans with the 6 piece bonus can have 2 of the same buff on one person. Example: 2 , 700 armor buffs on the tank.

But 1 shaman cant stack it himself, it only refreshs the timer. Sorry about that.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:34 PM   #89
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does it stack with like a "2" ala ignite/sunder/winterschill/improved scorch etc or just stacks up like deep wounds where its there multiple times ?

The thott entry doesn't have a mana cost with the proc, so it is very unlikely that the casting animation does anything to the 5SR.
very good point, will have to do some more detailed tests

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Old 08/22/06, 1:36 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by Theo
I mean 2 Shamans with the 6 piece bonus can have 2 of the same buff on one person. Example: 2 , 700 armor buffs on the tank.

But 1 shaman cant stack it himself, it only refreshs the timer. Sorry about that.
Holy shit I did not know that could stack with multiple shaman. Fricking crazy.

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Old 08/22/06, 1:36 PM   #91
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Multiple times as in deep wounds, could be a buff problem on some encounters :/

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Old 08/22/06, 1:38 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by Theo
Multiple times as in deep wounds, could be a buff problem on some encounters :/
Shouldn't be too big of an issue now though since Tigole said they changed the way buff priorities work for warrior stances and flasks.

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Old 08/22/06, 3:40 PM   #93
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I heard a rumor that 6 piece EF's proc does not give RAP for hunters.

Confirm/deny?

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Old 08/22/06, 3:45 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by Oggie
I heard a rumor that 6 piece EF's proc does not give RAP for hunters.

Confirm/deny?
Thott's entry gave ranged and melee AP last time I looked.

It could have changed since I last looked.

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Old 08/22/06, 4:08 PM   #95
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I believe the original form of the Earthshatter bonus for DPS classes didn't explicitly state ranged, they changed the spell detail for it a bit later.

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Old 08/22/06, 4:09 PM   #96
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http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=28826

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Old 08/22/06, 4:20 PM   #97
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AP might of been changed this patch to ranged for hunters (we can hope)

Claiming the 6pc bonus to be a 10% chance is quite a bold statement. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and would say 5-8% at the most. (Flash of light spamming) I should really test it with holy light and see if the proc rate even changes.

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Old 08/22/06, 5:54 PM   #98
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Originally Posted by Igniter
AP might of been changed this patch to ranged for hunters (we can hope)

Claiming the 6pc bonus to be a 10% chance is quite a bold statement. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and would say 5-8% at the most. (Flash of light spamming) I should really test it with holy light and see if the proc rate even changes.
Well ya. I've seen around 9% or so when clearing trash and spamming highest ranks where it doesn't matter. But boss fights using efficent heals+downranked heals it's really streaky and its around 6-7%. I can't find a really good parser but i guess your statement is about right.

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