Hunters: Which enchant to use on Helm/Leg

Sienna · 07/21/06, 6:58 AM

With lightning reflexes 8 agility gives slightly more damage than 24 AP in total where ZG enchant has 1% to hit and 10 stamina which is very nice for Naxx where +hit is needed. But in terms of pure dps, 1% haste seems better than all since after a while 8 agi or 24 AP don't increase your dps by 1%. So I'm thinking to actually remove my ZG enchants on my dps gear and put 1% haste.

Brissa · 07/21/06, 7:11 AM

1% haste wont increase your DPS by 1% since it doesnt lower your multishot cooldown and such

Umph · 07/21/06, 7:11 AM

8*1.15 = 9.2 = 9 = 18ap?

ZG enchant.

Haste also doesn't affect ranged weapons, unless it's been changed recently.

Brissa · 07/21/06, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by ruro

8*1.15 = 9.2 = 9 = 18ap?

It also gives crit

Gonkish · 07/21/06, 8:52 AM

ZG enchant > all other librams, currently.

Umph · 07/21/06, 9:16 AM

Originally Posted by Brissa

Originally Posted by ruro

8*1.15 = 9.2 = 9 = 18ap?

It also gives crit

A marginal amount, I didn't think it was worth mentioning. ZG is > all, as gonk said.

Sienna · 07/21/06, 9:58 AM

8*1.15*1.10 in raids with kings. I'm not talking about solo damamge. Together with kings and the crit rate it gives currently it gives a bit more dps in my build than 24 AP.

Sienna · 07/21/06, 10:00 AM

And as far as I know haste does increase ranged as well.

Decker · 07/21/06, 10:26 AM

ZG enchant. +STA ftw.

Tzeni · 07/21/06, 11:08 AM

I don't understand why you're so interested in such marginal improvements in dps (for you +8 agi is only a tiny bit worse than zg enchant) when you could make a much bigger improvment in dps by changing spec.

EDIT: And I wouldn't be putting on a haste enchant since that really only helps if you're just autoshotting... and I never just autoshot, even as a horde hunter, on any fight where dps matters.

• frmorrison · 07/21/06, 11:24 AM

If you want to increase you dps, do something like a 5/31/15 spec and keep your ZG enchants.

1% to haste will increase your autoattack damage by 1%, but nothing to aimed/multi, while ZG affects all three.

Really, nothing except the Nax enchants can touch ZG enchants, no matter your build.

Sienna · 07/21/06, 11:37 AM

Actually on survival build like I said ZG enchant gives less dps than 8 agility. At least with my stats. The difference is tiny of course and I'm not gonna loose 10 stamina for that.

• frmorrison · 07/21/06, 11:43 AM

ZG enchant gives 1 to hit and 24 AP and 10 stam.

Even with your non-ideal raiding build, that makes the 8 agilty into 10 agilty (20 RAP around .4 to crit). If you aren't at the 8.6% hit cap, then ZG is clearly better, past the hit cap agility may be better, but you are forgetting that you can never go wrong with more stamina.

Sienna · 07/21/06, 12:37 PM

Yes. That's why I stated "considering sole dps only".

Rabid Rob · 07/21/06, 2:10 PM

In my experience...

+8 Agi will give a tiny bit more DPS if you meet these requirements:

Full Lightning Relfexes
Blessing of Kings
already have +8 tohit or +5 skill and +7 tohit

and I do mean tiny.