Gave our first real attempts at Patchwerk today but we're having a lot of problems even surviving past about 20 seconds of "tanking" to really see if we've got the DPS to pull the fight off.

1. Our main tank doesn't always seem to be the "main tank" when the pull occurs. He's shooting Patch from across the slime and pulling him over, and then a few seconds later gets a HS and dies.

2. Some of our OTs who should be the HS sponges are NOT being primed for the HS, and just stand around not getting hit while some of the DPS warriors and rogues start taking the HS.

Most of our warriors are sitting at about 9400-9700 HP fully buffed (with flasks) and have around ~68% damage mitigation from armor. They're getting hit from anywhere from 8k-9.9k HS and getting one shotted.

Are issues #1 and #2 something we're doing wrong? Is our gearing for the warriors not at the optimal level right now? They're all wearing full Tier2 and have as many buffs as we can give them. (None have any of the T3 yet though do to our bidding system) Also, how do most of you do the pull to draw him in?

Yah sorry should have specified some of this a bit more. For the "wipe fest" attempts we've got all the standard horde buffs on the tanks, plus flasks, bloodpact, potion of fortitude, rumsey rum, dirge's kickin chops, and stoneshield pots. All 4 of the MT and OTs have lifegiving gem, last stand... etc.

Instead of this bidding system, you should get the Tanks and Melee DPS geared with Tier 3

Uh, there's no way those numbers add up then. A "tier 2" tank with stoneshield, sup def, and all the works cannot get one-shotted by HS.... Do they have t2 shields, or Drillborer?

Wait, do they have Toughness?

8/8 Wrath, the blessed qiraji bulwark, c'thun tanking nekclace, exalted Brood ring, styleens scarab, cryptfiend cloak... this is one of our best geared tanks and he got one shotted in one of the attempts by a HS.

That's just not possible. Either he was in the wrong stance, forgot an important piece of gear or two, didn't have the potion in effect, etc.

You said yourself they have 68% mitigation with everything up. 29900 is the max HS can do. 29900 * 0.32 = 9568 * 0.9 = 8611 in defensive stance

Yah I looked at the HS ability on thottbot and saw the same thing and was pretty confused, my shaman has something like 50% reduction and I got hit for a 16k HS on our first wipe. So... not sure wtf is going on with that. I personally checked my combat log after the first couple attempts and saw tanks getting hit for damn near 10k and they said their armor tooltip on the char sheet said anywhere from 63%-68% mitigation.

I did the math too at the start of the fight, and we thought we were set, so we're at a loss as to whats going on here.

63% is VERY different from 68. 63 means you die.

29900 * 0.37 = 11063 * 0.9 = 9957

Yessir. Thats the lower end of our tanks though. The higher end was 68-69% mitigation.

63% mitigation gets you to 9956 max HS.

So you said 8k-9.9k HS, and you said 63%-68% armor mitigation. The numbers seem fine, you just don't meet the gear check at 63%, and at 68% your healers should step up and heal it.

You say this with the implication that the 68-69% mitigation tanks are getting oneshotted.