Sunder

I use ToEP and Rejuv Gem currently. I do not have a Scale or I would probably use it instead of the ToEP. Like someone said before, the passive trinkets give a more constant benefit to healers rather than the triggered ones. About the only time I really make sure to use ToEP is on the Warrior Nefarion Class Call and during Twin Emps when our warrior is tanking the caster Emp. Other than that, it pretty much just sits in my trinket slot taking up space.

 

Phantim

Let me preface this by stating that i am in no way a main healer (i have a priest and shaman alts thats about it). One of the more overlooked trinkets that a few of our priests have fallen in love with is the scarab brooch. I think this trinket really shines in fights like vael /princess huhu when you are casting group heals.

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Azaziel

I havnt seen anyone mentioning Blue Dragon, do most people find it to unreliable if you are a healer?

I used it as a primary trinket when I raided as a shadow priest, now that im disc/holy im not so sure if its worth using.
It should scale better with gear than most other trinkets so I assume some more math heavy players have calculated when it would outperform mindtap/shard etc.

thoughts?

 

• Lurchington

I use /script SpellStopCasting() between each step and it's worked ok for me. Are you sure it's triggering the GCD? Or is it just not breaking from the animation.

And a related note. Even though ZHC and ToEP do not stack, Blessed Prayer Beads still stacks. Trinket Priest all up in dis 8)

 

• frmorrison

There are topics (on this forum) that have done the math. The trinket is good if you are a Priest with lots of Spirit, but it is not better than Shard.

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• Lurchington

there was some pretty convincing math in a previous thread on this subject, that put the turning point for talisman and blue dragon a fair bit out of reach for most priests now that they killed the interaction between Transcendence/Meditation and Blue Dragon/Innervate. The point for shard of the scale was even further out. (obviously).

losing 30% of the regen while in Blue Dragon hurt it.
I'll try to link


edit:
I seem to remember being tucked into the Innervate turning into a core ability thread.
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=6664

 

newladin

You and me both. at least i have the zhc.

go, go 2 rejuv since oct-nov of last year

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berg

Hey its not all bad, atleast you got taut nexushide belts right?

 

citsispilos

At 2 minute cooldown, it's roughly 31 mp/5. That's quite an improvement over Shard.

 

Ripper

I currently use Rejuv Gem with either Hibernation Crystal or Scarab Brooch, depending on the situation.

 

◊ Anias

I use (regularly) hibernation, ZHC, shard, DM trinket, depending on what I'm doing. I really like hibernation for some specific purposes (layering on large hots). It's by no means as ridiculous for a druid as it was pre patch (I would argue that any druid not using hibernation before the patch was insane) because you can no longer arrange your hots so that you get some ridiculous number of spells affected, but it's still quite good if you can vary your casting to make good use of it on the fly. I like ZHC for fights like c'thun where the extra burst healing is useful and I can dump it into imp wrath spam if the healing isn't needed.

Math is very easy, explaining math is quite difficult.

 

xkmonkey

I'm currently using Rejuv Gem and Shard. I also use scrolls of blinding light for Huhuran enrage, but otherwise, I've never really liked burts healing trinkets. I find myself not using them often enough to make up the benefits of passive trinkets.

 

Oneiros

we got two rejvenating gems on back to back drakes this week. im still trying to understand why i passed on them.

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◊ Shalas

My view on the burst healing trinkets is that as I almost never cast my max ranks, all they do is occasionally save me a little bit of mana -- and significantly less than a passive trinket would.

 

Tuco

Ah, thanks for correcting me. I hope you're right too as I was very dissapointed at not seeing an instance of that trinket drop ever.

 

Malorum

I use Mindtap Talisman and Rejuv Gem for most fights. Occasionally ill put on ZHC for trash mobs but thats about it.

 

heel

Let's say, as a priest, you do nothing but spam HR2. No interrupting, just nonstop casting. With the longevity priests have nowadays, this isn't an unreasonable style of healing, and it's actually the optimal healing method in many situations (patchwerk?). So, anyway: Blue Dragon has a 2% chance per spellcast of triggering, so you can expect it to be in effect 1-(0.98)^6 = 11.42% of the time. Assuming you have Meditation and 3/8 Trans for 30% incombat regen (pretty much a given), the card is providing bonus regeneration equal to 70% of your spirit regeneration for an average of 11.42% of your spirit ticks. That equates to

(0.7)(.1142)(12.5+spirit/4) = an average of (1+spirit/50) mana per tick, which is equivalent to
(5/2)(1+spirit/50) = (2.5+spirit/20) mana/5.

The break-even point with Shard of the Scale is 270 spirit. As it stands, I have about 380 raid-buffed spirit. In circumstances where I am just spamming, therefore, that puts the value of the Blue Dragon Card at about 21.5 mana/5. Yes, it's not quite as consistent, but the net benefit of the card certainly seems to be higher than that of Shard of the Scale.

 

• Chicken

I favour my Rejuvenating Gem/Shard of the Scale combo myself. Though I do switch out the Shard for my Royal Seal for some fights.

Burst healing trinkets are nice at times, but the times they are is few and far between, and you generally know beforehand they'll be useful.

I've considered Blue Dragon, but found that I didn't like it as much compared to my always active trinkets, but I'm a person with rotten luck when it comes to relying on procs.

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Lagomorph

And as soon as you aren't chain casting for no benefit, the equivalent regen of the blue dragon drops through the floor. Which is why I personally don't like it.

 

Crimsonjade

I like to use ZHC on Huhuran so I can land larger HoT's on the 15 people that are catching the poison. Fire and forget, then I can focus on catching the large MT spikes when he gets slept.