Should be perfectly doable with 5 mages.

Desemus: Ignition keeps stealing my /1 channel spot, in case you already didnt know :/

Wheres the new mod :) I'm trying to get some more fire mages going in our guild, basically by talking about rolling ignites and this mod will probably help with the timing... for some reason i can't set the channel in your last release, I'm think the new patch might have done a number on it (maybe something related to ctraid no longer using a channel) Baically I've tried every combination of /ignition channel ignite and /ichannel ignite i think of with and without <> and nothing happens when I enter the channel change

thanks for the mod

My guild is currently working on Huhuran in AQ40 and is still making weekly visits to MC and BWL, so any thoughts of respeccing from my current frost build, in my opinion, are going to wait until we move into Naxx. That said, I can imagine that the number of mages specced for ignites will influence the amount of crit gear needed to maintain a rolling ignite effectively.

What would be the general minimum crit percentage people would consider viable with say, 3 mages? How about 4? I'd say I'm probably sitting at around about 13-15% without any talents in the fire tree, and I often work with +7% crit gear. That's pretty high for my guild so far, we tend to have a rotating quota of mages for raids that are taking forever to gear up as a result. With a fire spec like the one listed in post #111, I think my crit range would be about 20%, maybe a little higher. How many mages of an equivalent crit percentage would be effective at successfully rolling an ignite?

There's no real way to answer that question, other than to say, more is better. I've got about 25% raid buffed, with an eye of the beast on, for comparison's sake. It doesn't really matter though. You're going to have fairly high crit once you start picking up later end gear, no matter what you do. Just figure out the crit/dam/hit equivalencies for your level of gear(use Theorycraft) and go by that.

Neltharion's Tear is still the best mage trinket. Rune of the Dawn still beats out most trinkets against undead.

However, I've reached the point in gear where Eye of the Beast has a higher sustained DPS than ToEP and Briarwood Reed. Add in the mana regen component of it (from Master of Elements) and in any fight where I can cast continously, it's the better trinket. And it's also better than Rune of the Dawn (or anything but Tear) on Thaddius. :)

I had to check it out, so I slapped a warlock in the face, and brought him to Searing gorge to debuff some elites.

All pics are with 5/5 scorch and CoE.

This is with briarwood reed, since Theorycraft (and bonusscanner) doesn't support Rune of the Dawn


Here's Eye of the beast


But I like big numbars :( Oh welll...the crit obviously increases dps > total damage and the DPM.

By the way, I guess most have already seen the list of spells featured in The burning Crusade over at Curse-gaming.
They are odd to say the least. Just check out Fire blast:

http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/s...ire-blast.html

The base damage of the current Fire blast is 431 - 509. That fire blast is 823-976. With 648 damage, my fire blast does 795 - 882 and that's with Fire Power. Getting outdamaged by a green geared level 70 without talents or +dmg gear? THey must really have some insane plans for pvp if damage is going to scale like this.

What about Ascendence vs. Eye of the Beast? I currently use Eye+Tear, wondering if I should farm for it.

Edit: Arg fixed another error!
0.9a
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kwmather/Ignition9.rar

(beware dirty Frost Mage Fireblast crits)

Does this version synch with a melee?

As for ToA vs Eye, when it comes to Scorch spam Eye wins out.

For fireball spam, assuming 18.75 casts of Fireball per a minute (3.2s/cast) my Eye of the Beast is giving me an approximately +32 damage equivalent. For me, the two items are about equal, with ToA winning out over Eye in burst fights. There's also a good argument that it works better with combustion than any other trinket.

For fire mages, the burst trinkets are ToA > ToEP > MQG (this one is variable) > ZGHC
Compared to sustained DPS trinkets, I think the slotting is Neltharion's Tear > Rune of the Dawn > Eye of the Beast (gear level dependent) >= ToA > ToEP > Briarwood Reed > MQG > ZGHC.

I've been trying to get this mod to work but no luck, this time the channel error isn't the issue, but nothing happens with the mod itself when i crit (and ignite) a target any ideas on what i'm doing wrong?

Are you making sure the mod is set to monitor your current target?

Been working on a similar mod myself because i wanted an easier way to watch ignite/fire vulnerability. Its not complete yet still a few things i want to adjust but it has worked out pretty well and if anyone wants to try it dl it from the link below. Any feedback/suggestions are welcome


Screenshoot a couple of days ago, added three buttons to the topright since then (option, close, minimize)

http://www.filefactory.com/file/929c7d/