im a fairly new healer by comparison to some of the veterans on this forum. With DPS and Tanks the consumables of choice are quite obvious: titans, stonesheild, arcane power, etc etc. Being a healing class (priest) im kinda stumped on what consumables i should start bringing with me on every raid. Blessed sunfriut juice seems like a good one, sense it’s so easy to obtain, but what else?


i guess the question im asking is: what do you (druids, shamans, priests) use in raids and why?

I aim to bring to every naxx week (10 bosses downed so far)

1 flask of distilled wisdom - for patchwerk if neccessary
20 major mana pots
15 dark/demonic runes
10 mageblood
20 nightfin/sagefish soups
10 charges of brilliant mana oils
20 bandages

The majority of consumables are used on patchwerk, with a bit on thaddius. Most of it is excess incase we have a shitty week and wipe on patchwerk a lot, on a good week I'll use maybe 5-6 mana pots and a couple dark runes.

Brilliant mana oil, nightfin soup, crap load of major mana potions, mageblood potion, zanzas might be good (+50 spirit) and dark runes/demonic runes. Flasks are pretty waste of herbs, just 2k more max mana which equals 1 major mana..

major mana ( :P )
demonic / dark runes
mageblood potions
mana oil
Nightfin Soup for mana reg fights
sta food for things like ouro or anub if you are mt healer.

flasks dont cut it 2k mana isnt worth the mats

I found it useful when learning patchwerk and all your cooldowns are down. I haven't had to use one past that but I keep it handy just in case.

Arcane Elixirs are good, obviously Major Mana pots hand over fist, either Wizard Oil or Mana Oil, Nightfin or Sagefish usually trumps Sunfruit juice for your food buff.

i've done all of MC/ony, first boss in aq40, all of the 20 mans. i havent stepped foot into bwl, so maybe there is a fight in there that would need the flask, but if thats not hte case.... seems like a waste of herbs.

thanks for the tips guys. ill start farming for all these things. gonna take a shit load of dimes...

Pre-drinking Wisdom is a waste. Having them onhand in case of true emergency is not. If two crucial healers run completely dry with no available innervates and pot/rune timer down with Patchwerk at 25% I'd rather eat the cost of 2 Flasks and win than spare the expense and wipe.

Pesonally, in my career to date from Onyxia to Naxx I've never used a distilled wisdom and never felt the lack of one. 2k mana just doens't make a great difference when a priest's total mana pool over 10 minutes is pushing 40k before regen consumables. What I do use virtually all the time is +12 spirit food (cheap and better than +10 from sunfruit juice) and try to stack up heavily on mageblood potions, major mana potions and brilliant mana oil so I can use them liberally whenever I'm feeling stretched. Also a stack of bandages and nature and fire protection potions - sometimes you don't want to be using mana to heal yourself if there's a way to avoid it.

Sagefish delight, easy as hell to fish and last 15 mins!

You can't use them for patchwerk, but I'm really starting to dig greater dreamless sleep potions. Mostly because Naxx is bankrupting me, and these pots are a fair amount cheaper than major mana pots.

Mana oil is nice because you can camp it like you would a flask.

Nightfins are really quite easy to get if you're up past midnight (server time). Starting at about midnight, I teleport to Moonglade (druid teleport) and fish them up. Drop rate is about 35% or so at that time.

Demonic runes really suck to farm as a PvE-specced healing class. It's not an efficient use of my time and I usually end up buying dark runes for close to 2 gold per pop.

Not the only one. I used to get tells wondering why I was drinking alcohol at a bossfight.

The best part is when you're announcing for some mod and it comes out all slurred.

i typically shy away from anything that hurts stats. i think this is a kinda knee jerk reaction many players have. Which, in this case, is a good exchange

So Wisdom flasks don't share cooldowns with potions/runes under the new system, and give you the 2k mana as well as extending max mana by 2k?

If so, then it might indeed be worth having a couple on hand for new encounters (though only for people with good judgment on when to use them!).

From my end (which doesn't go further than Nef and the starts of AQ40/Naxx), nightfin/runes are cheap and great, plus a variety of major mana/superior mana/greater dreamless/mageblood/mana oil for using when I feel it's needed. Runes are great, and much easier to farm than major mana pots. Rune+Greater Dreamless is fantastic when you can get away with it, but a lot of fights it's simply unuseable either because of random splash damage or because you can't afford to take a break or to stand in one spot for 12 seconds without being able to move.

NOT using consumables when not necessary is pretty important too, for the sake of people not having to farm ridiculous amounts and in terms of encouraging people to get it right. We never used consumables or the UBRS buff on Vael, for example, which made the process less time consuming and costly overall and encouraged us to just get the fight right (and then we had loads to spend on our first Nef kill, still did about 4-5 hours of attempts over 2 days without consumables, then got the kill in a couple of tries once we flasked up and took our arcane elixirs, mongooses, magebloods etc).

I rarely use even one of each, but I bring the following to every raid:

80 Sacred Candles
5 Combat Mana Potions
5 Combat Healing Potions
30 Major Mana Potions
5 Major Healing Potions
10-20 Blessed Sunfruit Juice (or the AV water, depending on which is closer to where we're raiding)
20 Dark Runes (Demonics require farming, while darks require a couple seconds at the AH)
20 NDB (until I run out of them, they aren't worth farming anymore)
20 Whipper Root Tuber (See above)
10 charges of Blessed Mana Oil
10 charges of Lesser Mana Oil
10 Kreeg's Stout Beatdown
10 Mageblood potions
10 Nightfin Soup
10 Sagefish Delight
20 Heavy Runecloth Bandages
5 Major Rejuvination Potions

I've never been a fan of Dreamless sleep potions. In general, if I can stand around for 12 seconds not casting, mana isn't a problem anyways (and I spent 600g on 2g/stack major mana potions awhile ago, so money isn't a concern).

I decided a while ago that wiping because I didn't bring enough consumables was pretty stupid, and set out to ensure that would never happen again.

Greater Dreamless Sleep's appeal isn't just its rather low cost, but also its timer-efficiency, since that 500 mana could very well be the difference. Granted, you have to find a good place to use it. (I managed to use one on Hakkar once. I'm not sure how exactly.)

I don't ever actually use the Rejuv pots. I always just heal myself, then remember that I have some rejuv pots and just drink a mana pot.

QFT. I've had 5 major rejuv's for like . . . decades.

I've never been able to try one out myself, but I heard that it fills the bar completetly. At best anyway, it's another 2k mana.

I found combat pulsing on bosses now to be severely restrictive to use of Greater Dreamless Sleep potions. Havn't yet tried in Naxxramas, but they're a No-No for the mobility or dispel fights :\

Yes, Flask of Distilled Wisdom increases both your current and maximum mana by the same amount.

Yeah I probably made those...they couldn't possibly do anything better than look good as trophy potions. I must be out of touch though, not a lot of people have mentioned the +50 blasted land boosts.

As for Dreamless Sleep potions I find them almost completely useless when there are better alternatives such as what is previously metioned.

Blasted lands buffs got nerfed to +25.