Black Grasp of the Destroyer? (directed at Hunters) - Page 2

Grital · 08/23/06, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Xaeroflex

Another thought, if you are able to reach the minimum required by a Rank 6 Aimed and Rank 5 Multi shot cycle for 7 minutes, and have an excess of mana regen, shouldn't that excess mana be used by burning serpent sting?

That is, you're able to reach and exceed the mana regen requirement limits, now the limiting value in hunter dps is lack of options to dump mana into damage abilities, not mana requirements. After Aimed/Multi, serpent is all thats left that a hunter can dump mana -> damage. I would be curious to see what a Aimed/Multi and serpent every other rotation works out to be coupled with BGotD vs DS for a 7 minute fight.

Except for the fact that any reasonable guild would boot a hunter who used Serpent Sting on a raid mob. It would increase his personal DPS, not raid DPS. Considering the insane mana regen our priests have these days I'd rather see a SW:P up there.

(OK, I might be exaggerating. It might just be my guild that /gkicks Hunters who use serpent sting on raid mobs.)

Lactose · 08/23/06, 11:18 PM

In addition, it seems to have a very low priority, thus getting knocked off after a couple of seconds max.
In one of our Patchwerk kills, I misclicked a button, and fired a Serpent Sting instead of... activating Rapid Fire (or something similarily random).
A breakdown of damage dealt after the combat showed me, in total for the whole fight, having Serpent Sting damage dealt equal to...
1 tick

Xaeroflex · 08/24/06, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Grital

Originally Posted by Xaeroflex

Another thought, if you are able to reach the minimum required by a Rank 6 Aimed and Rank 5 Multi shot cycle for 7 minutes, and have an excess of mana regen, shouldn't that excess mana be used by burning serpent sting?

That is, you're able to reach and exceed the mana regen requirement limits, now the limiting value in hunter dps is lack of options to dump mana into damage abilities, not mana requirements. After Aimed/Multi, serpent is all thats left that a hunter can dump mana -> damage. I would be curious to see what a Aimed/Multi and serpent every other rotation works out to be coupled with BGotD vs DS for a 7 minute fight.

Except for the fact that any reasonable guild would boot a hunter who used Serpent Sting on a raid mob. It would increase his personal DPS, not raid DPS. Considering the insane mana regen our priests have these days I'd rather see a SW:P up there.

(OK, I might be exaggerating. It might just be my guild that /gkicks Hunters who use serpent sting on raid mobs.)

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=7880

I can hope :o.

Iniliara · 08/24/06, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Twid

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This is of course not always the cheapest of consumables (about 15-20g a stack, you can look at probably 9-10g per 7 min. encounter worth of pots)
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As a hunter (and now as a priest, for that matter) I found it incredibly valuable to have herbalism as a trade skill; they're definitely one of the more pot-intensive classes in end-game raiding, so being able to farm your own major mana / mageblood / mongoose pots is a huge help. With a bit of time spent farming herbs the costs you mention of using said consumables drops dramatically.

As an aside, for longer fights like Patchwerk it's probably worthwhile dumping a bit of cash into brilliant mana oils rather than lessers, it's a fairly decent boost in regeneration, though possibly not necessary for alliance hunters.