Version2.2 of Tiered Armor Analysis - Page 2

Malan · 09/21/06, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Taikero

The download link doesn't work. Apparently there isn't a Filefront server that has the file.

My god man you're right. Tell ya what, my day is looking to be pretty boring here at work today, I'll work on the new version of it again and try to get it finished.
All I had left to complete on the newer one is adding paladins and mages, and completing the effective stats for a couple classes. Might be about 2 hours of work. Keep an eye on this post and I'll update it later.

snape · 09/21/06, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Originally Posted by Taikero

The download link doesn't work. Apparently there isn't a Filefront server that has the file.

My god man you're right. Tell ya what, my day is looking to be pretty boring here at work today, I'll work on the new version of it again and try to get it finished.
All I had left to complete on the newer one is adding paladins and mages, and completing the effective stats for a couple classes. Might be about 2 hours of work. Keep an eye on this post and I'll update it later.

I love how we're all weeknight warriors...I'm at work now too. Do a few minutes of work...check EJ forums...do more work...yep, that's a work day.

Taikero · 09/21/06, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Malan

Originally Posted by Taikero

The download link doesn't work. Apparently there isn't a Filefront server that has the file.

My god man you're right. Tell ya what, my day is looking to be pretty boring here at work today, I'll work on the new version of it again and try to get it finished.
All I had left to complete on the newer one is adding paladins and mages, and completing the effective stats for a couple classes. Might be about 2 hours of work. Keep an eye on this post and I'll update it later.

Work is boring here too. I'll be around.

Omentuva · 09/21/06, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by snape

For 8/8 NW, the set bonus is "roughly" equivalent to a 6% increase in overall DPS if you're Frost, or 6.66% if you're Fire (assuming that the global CD is 1 second, and your main nukes are Frostbolt and Fireball, respectively).

Evil. :P But wasn't the GCD 1.5 sec, making it 4 and 5 %?

snape · 09/21/06, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Omentuva

Originally Posted by snape

For 8/8 NW, the set bonus is "roughly" equivalent to a 6% increase in overall DPS if you're Frost, or 6.66% if you're Fire (assuming that the global CD is 1 second, and your main nukes are Frostbolt and Fireball, respectively).

Evil. :P But wasn't the GCD 1.5 sec, making it 4 and 5 %?

I don't know! On my Warlock, I have 2/5 Improved Corruption, reducing its casting time to 1.2 seconds...and I can ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL cast Curse of Agony right after. This shouldn't be possible if the GCD is 1.5 seconds...unless there's funny lag things going on, but my ping is always below 100 ms.

Malan · 09/21/06, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by snape

I love how we're all weeknight warriors...I'm at work now too. Do a few minutes of work...check EJ forums...do more work...yep, that's a work day.

In my case its "refresh EJ... refresh EJ... oh look something new to read... refresh EJ... refresh EJ....oh look a piece of work that will take 5 min to complete... refresh EJ"

Karway · 09/21/06, 3:54 PM

I think there is a typo...Priest Tab row 26 says "Priest Tier 3 to Tier 2.5 Upgrade Gain/Loss". I beleive that should read T2 to T3 like all the other tabs.

Bibdy · 09/21/06, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by Karway

Thanks,
Karway 60 Druid Spirestone
Crystina 60 Troll Priest Crushridge
Physica 60 Human Priest Bonechewer

Errr...

Anyhoo, you could always try totalling up the bonuses from each set and then dividing each by the number of pieces of the set as a way of including the stats from the bracers, gloves and belt pieces. Or taking the stats from the non-set pieces found inside AQ40, e.g. Burrower's Bracers, Dark Storm Gauntlets and Eyestalk Waistcord.

alienangel · 09/21/06, 6:23 PM

It looks like the AP you're calculating for hunters is melee AP. While that's accurate, and pretty easy to for the reader to calculate ranged AP from, it's a little misleading unless pointed out :P

Aphyrax · 09/21/06, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by snape

Originally Posted by Omentuva

Originally Posted by snape

For 8/8 NW, the set bonus is "roughly" equivalent to a 6% increase in overall DPS if you're Frost, or 6.66% if you're Fire (assuming that the global CD is 1 second, and your main nukes are Frostbolt and Fireball, respectively).

Evil. :P But wasn't the GCD 1.5 sec, making it 4 and 5 %?

I don't know! On my Warlock, I have 2/5 Improved Corruption, reducing its casting time to 1.2 seconds...and I can ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL cast Curse of Agony right after. This shouldn't be possible if the GCD is 1.5 seconds...unless there's funny lag things going on, but my ping is always below 100 ms.

The GC (at least for mages) is certainly 1.5 seconds. I am able to get the "spell not ready" message when scorching with mind quickening gem activated.

Malan · 09/21/06, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by alienangel

It looks like the AP you're calculating for hunters is melee AP. While that's accurate, and pretty easy to for the reader to calculate ranged AP from, it's a little misleading unless pointed out :P

The 2.2 version that was up there had some issues yah. The one I was revising into a new format fixes just about everything (I think). Kinda lost my motivation to finish it today though =\

Malan · 09/22/06, 4:09 PM

Version 3.0 of the file is uploaded, link is below.

http://files.filefront.com/ArmorAnal.../fileinfo.html

See the first post in this thread for changes that have been made. All new structure/layout to the file btw, much nicer overall.

Haldane · 09/22/06, 4:38 PM

Great spreadsheet. One nitpick: the Belt of Ten Storms is missing its +1% spell crit. Just something I noticed as I was playing with the Shaman sets.

Malan · 09/22/06, 4:43 PM

Originally Posted by Haldane

Great spreadsheet. One nitpick: the Belt of Ten Storms is missing its +1% spell crit. Just something I noticed as I was playing with the Shaman sets.

I beat my head into my desk every time this happens. I'll upload it again....

Edit - corrected. v3.0.1

Edit - ok apparently I had all the damn chest pieces for rogues swapped with the wrong names, its been fixed now
v3.1 - http://files.filefront.com/ArmorAnal.../fileinfo.html

Karway · 09/22/06, 5:57 PM

I really like the latest spreadsheet (3.1)...but I must be blind because I dont see a mage tab.

I would like to see the effective stats for the comparison between the two sets stated in percentage increase/decrease as well as raw numbers. I would add the healing or damage changes to the effective stats area also.