Go here for an addon for EQDKP:
http://wiki.foosel.net/snippets/eqdkp?Doku...299423cdabe9fd8


It has a point burnout built into it(deals with the decimals)
And its pretty good, been using it for quite some time.


BTW Zekk From Darkspear has stolen your sister. Send 10 Cookies and a glass of whine and you shall have your dog back.

You guys are not planning on any point value update on the set parts that are gonna have revamps?

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It's rare when we change the value of an item, but it happens.

We're currently discussing a new method of pricing (and buying) items that we're going to run into while clearing AQ. It's going to take into account the various quality and desirability of the different rewards; basically what we see now with the head of Nef - 1 good reward, 2 very good rewards - where one JP value might be too high. Once we hash it out, we'll be happy to share what we've come up with.

I've got a couple more questions for you guys, if you don't mind. Feel free to tell me to gtfo if you don't want random goons asking you questions.

1) What about flameguard gaunts? I don't see them listed anywhere, but I may just be blind. Most of my guild is new to the end game, so we don't feel comfortable assigning points to things yet.

2) OMFG. My guild's first Garr kill ever: [Bindings of the Windseeker]. Given to me, because I'm MT. How the hell do we handle this DKP wise? I read you guys charge 300 dkp on completion of Sulfuras, but where does that go? Who gets the 300/40 dkp? THe people on the raid that the initial crafting component dropped? We just started MC, so it's going to be quite a while before this thing is crafted.

i hate you so so soooo much

Ack, another question because I am way too inexperienced with this type of system to forsee the ramifications of this. We recently got our first nexus crystal (shardstrike lol). One of the officers in the guild felt that some sort of dkp should still be awarded because not getting anything just because the dropped is poor sucks. His idea was this: create some fake character named Nexuscrystals in the eqdkp database. Every time we get a nexus crystal, subtract 10 dkp from the fake character and give everyone present 10 divided by 40 dkp. Then, if someone wants to withdraw a nexus crystal from the guild bank for an enchant, transfer 10 dkp from them to Nexuscrystals, keeping everything at zero sum.

Like I said, I'm way too inexperienced to forsee the ramifications of this, but it just doesn't sound good at all. My gut reaction is that this is going to massively fuck up the balance of zero-sum, but I don't understand the underlying math well enough to be able to back this up. Thoughts?

The underlying math is that when you take something out you have to put it back in again.

With Nexus Crystals we're just doing the same as Cores etc: awarding everyone in the raid when something gets sharded a small amount of DKP, and then have someone buy the shards. I don't think you need to worry about a points mule.

Just a query with regards to downgrades/sidegrades and how to charge for them, as I'm not 100% sure I'm implementing this in the intended way.

Obviously Tier 1 > Tier 2 is easy, as is something like Manastorm Leggings > Prophecy Leggings because it's an obvious upgrade. But what if all warlocks have a Felheart Belt, and a Sash of Whispered Secrets drops. How would that be handled in your system? Full price? Half price? Free?

Also, is DKP value the only attribute used to ascertain whether or not something is classed as an upgrade? For instance can a warrior with a Helm of Endless Rage take a Helm of Wrath for free because it's a bit cheaper, even though it's used for a very different role? Or do you only offer free downgrades for Tier 1 gear when people already have Tier 2? In which case how much should Mr HoER have to pay for his Wrath?

It's only been an issue on one raid so far and I thought I had the system all down, but then a couple of items dropped and I wasn't totally sure how to handle them. First a Ring of Spell Power dropped which no-one wanted at full price. I offered it at upgrade price and the only person to bid had a Dragonslayer's Signet and a Seal of the Archmagus, both of which have the same value as Spell Power. So should he have got it for free? And if so, surely I would have to let other people know, seeing as others would have wanted it for free. I was pretty sure that wasn't what I was meant to do, and I gave it to him for half price rounded down to the nearest 25. The same thing happened later with a Mana Igniting Cord when all the bidders had Arcanist.

If it's an item of lower value (I'm feeling much to ill to check) it would be offered as a free downgrade if no one would be play JP for it.

Basically the same thing applies to your second senario, but I think HoER is less than Wrath, or it should be.

Again free downgrades are handle interclass, so you hopefully have class channels in your guild where loot can be discussed and decided on within the class. Sometimes a class will deceide to just /random for it, other times you can come to a consensus on who should take it. Last ditch is just letting the person with the highest JP pick it up as a free downgrade.

For the ring you'd definatly have to let everyone know that they still can pay JP on the ring at upgrade or full if they so want it. Then let everyone who can get it for free figure out an agreement.

(Gurg can feel free to correct me where I'm wrong, because no doubt I am)

HoER is an upgrade from Wrath in our system (in a perfect world they'd be the same price but every warrior in our guild had Wrath before we saw our first HoER so whatever, had to bend the rules a little).

Anyway, if an item is a DKP downgrade then it's free. If the only people who want it want it for free, then they /random for it or, fairly often, work it out via mutual agreement.