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Old 08/06/06, 7:31 PM   #1
4Lackofabetterword
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I'm currently planning to fallow the trend of going DW with my warrior, and I've created a build Id just like some advice on my point placement both in the Arms tree and the fury tree.

Here is the build I came up with http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

You'll see that in the arms tree I've dropped impale, its a 3% increase in dps for 8 points, which I found to be useless. I believe its overshadowed by the dps increase of 5 points into DW spec.

I didn't make this build on my own and alot of the points were placed on suggestions from other people. Such as anger management, could someone explain why Id want that point in there? Is it more useful as fury then it is as MS? I also have a question about improved intercept, I'm looking for a build for pure PVE dps, is intercept even worth wasting points in?

Anyway feel free to rip my build apart, I really don't have much experience in the fury tree, and I'm looking for some advice (or builds) from people who have been doing it for awhile.

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Old 08/06/06, 7:43 PM   #2
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Anger Management is currently bugged; the way it decreases your rage degeneration is that it gives you 1 rage every couple of seconds; this works when you're out of combat, but also has the effect of generating one rage while in combat. Passive rage regen is great, and when they get around to fixing this, most builds will probably drop that talent.


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Old 08/06/06, 7:48 PM   #3
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I thought that was fixed

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Old 08/06/06, 8:11 PM   #4
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Thats my build, its pretty sweet for dps imo.

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Old 08/06/06, 8:58 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by 4Lackofabetterword
I thought that was fixed
What was fixed is that you can no longer blood rage then turn on autoattack (without actually being in combat with anything) and generating rage.

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Old 08/06/06, 10:01 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by 4Lackofabetterword
You'll see that in the arms tree I've dropped impale, its a 3% increase in dps for 8 points, which I found to be useless. I believe its overshadowed by the dps increase of 5 points into DW spec.

I also have a question about improved intercept, I'm looking for a build for pure PVE dps, is intercept even worth wasting points in?
Impale is decent, but spending 8 points is pricey, especially for DW. And warlocks hate seeing all those deep wounds.

Imp intercept is a PvP talent, since there are few reasons why you would need to intercept more than every 30 or so seconds in PvE.

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Old 08/07/06, 4:19 AM   #7
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Impale promotes diversity, DW spec does not. I love to DW but sometimes its just more efficient to whip out a big 2 hander - particularly if you're horde. Speaking of which if you are horde you might want to delay going DW as it takes a very high level of gear to beat out 2h Fury or even MS due to our beloved Windfury. A guy whos 2h Fury with OEB can rival me sometimes if we have totems, he has heroism with some ZG stuff. Part of me is almost sad that the Windfury nerf didn't go through, it would have restored the balance. But of course thats from a pure e-peen perspective :D

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Old 08/07/06, 4:44 AM   #8
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If your aim is pure pve raiding I would remove the point out of piercing howl and max out improved battleshout.

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Old 08/07/06, 11:20 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by frmorrison
Originally Posted by 4Lackofabetterword
You'll see that in the arms tree I've dropped impale, its a 3% increase in dps for 8 points, which I found to be useless. I believe its overshadowed by the dps increase of 5 points into DW spec.

I also have a question about improved intercept, I'm looking for a build for pure PVE dps, is intercept even worth wasting points in?
Impale is decent, but spending 8 points is pricey, especially for DW. And warlocks hate seeing all those deep wounds.

Imp intercept is a PvP talent, since there are few reasons why you would need to intercept more than every 30 or so seconds in PvE.
I use my 15 sec intercept (Imp Intercept + Rank 12 gear) all the time for DPSing trash mobs in BWL! XD

But other than that, its not really needed in Raiding.

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Old 08/07/06, 12:53 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Taja
If your aim is pure pve raiding I would remove the point out of piercing howl and max out improved battleshout.
well......PH is very very useful ... nef phase 1 ... gluth ... razor kiting ect .


for the 1 point , it's worth it imo.

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Old 08/07/06, 2:37 PM   #11
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How useful a talent is improved cleave? I know it falls behind imp heroic strike for single target dmg, but it does seem a signifigant upgrade in aoe dmg for times when warriors can do that.

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Old 08/08/06, 12:39 AM   #12
4Lackofabetterword
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*Edit* answered my own question

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Old 08/08/06, 3:44 AM   #13
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Improved cleave only increases the bonus damage from cleave, not the overall damage.
Missread that for a long time aswell.


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Old 08/08/06, 5:03 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by sp00n
Improved cleave only increases the bonus damage from cleave, not the overall damage.
Its still worth it IF you are speccing for TrashMobs/AoE Damage (Nef Phase1/Fankriss Adds) or the common instance runs (its really good there).

Its obviously not worth it if you spec for single target damage. :)

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Old 08/08/06, 5:56 AM   #15
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So since max level cleave is 50 dmg + weapon dmg, than doing 120% would make that do 110 dmg. So 60 dmg difference. Meh I guess it isn't that great afterall. Losing 60 off cleaves doesn't seem a big deal if I can get something like filling up my dw spec points or putting points into imp heroic strike.

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Old 08/08/06, 6:23 AM   #16
suicuique
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Yes its "only" 60 Dmg difference. But it can crit and is (usually) applied to two targets. It really adds up fast if you are AoE-ing much.

I would put my points into DW spec first (assuming a quality OH).

But skilling HS or cleave is a matter of taste and what you are aiming for (Rage Dump on single target or maximizing AoE Damage on "easy" targets).

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Old 08/08/06, 6:27 AM   #17
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