Public Service Announcement

♦ Praetorian · 08/15/06, 5:25 PM

This is not personally verified obviously, but this might save people some grief:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post9533738

Applying Brilliant Mana Oil to ANY weapon will remove its enchantment upon log or zoning. This is an issue new to this morning, 08/15/06 and has been tested. The bug is 100% repeatable. Here are the steps:

1) Have any weapon with an enchantment. Benediction with +55 healing for example.
2) Apply Brilliant Mana Oil to Benediction
3) Logout or Zone
4) Log back in.
5) +55 Healing enchantment has been REMOVED.

DO NOT USE MANA OIL until this issue is fixed, guys.

Yes, this has been reported on the bug forums, but as no one reads those.. you guys need to know that this issue exists.

Please reproduce on PTR to back up my statement, and avoid ruining your guild's raids.

I assume poisons and sharpening stones would work the same way...

henaki · 08/15/06, 5:31 PM

Poisons stopped working completely on zoning as of today too. I'd imagine Shaman weapon buffs would reproduce this too?

Malan · 08/15/06, 5:32 PM

Hmm. This may have something to do with this?

Originally Posted by Nethaera

We have implemented a hotfix to all realms during today's maintenance which we had originally scheduled to release with patch 1.12 that changes the functionality of temporary item buffs (e.g. poisons, sharpening stones and shaman weapon buffs.) While we only just recently allowed the affects of these temporary item buffs to persist upon zoning and logging out, due to the extra demand it was placing on our hardware we've decided that for the time being, it was best to revert the change. We do anticipate this functionality will be available again once the anticipated hardware upgrades have been completed in preparation for the Burning Crusade's release.

[ post edited by Nethaera ]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...p=#post9530666

♦ Praetorian · 08/15/06, 5:32 PM

If crossing a zone-line while having windfury removes your permanent weapon enchant, I feel sorry for the GMs who are working tonight's shift.

Edit: Yes, the natural implication is a botched hotfix.

Malan · 08/15/06, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by Corsica

It only appears to be mana oil... sharp stones did NOT remove the effect

Originally Posted by Doore

We put the mana oil on the thunderfury because the sharpening stone did not remove crusader from it. we were testing it for the gm's since they needed proof that our +55 healing enchants had indeed disapeared because of a server side bug.

So yah the stones seem ok. No word on poisons or shammy buffs though.

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 5:47 PM

The forums seem to think this only has to do with mana oil. Still, better safe than sorry.

I did not lose Crusader while zoning from Org to RFC with either Windfury, Rockbiter, Frostbrand, or Flametongue.

♦ Praetorian · 08/15/06, 5:48 PM

I am skeptical. They didn't say which sharpening stone they used. A standard +dam stone doesn't apply a player aura -- it modifies the weapon directly. If they tried using a crit stone or the like, then that's different, but until I see confirmation, I'd be very cautious.

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 5:51 PM

I just tested weapon enchants. I'll test each rank then change continents with em. I just don't want to wait on the fucking zeppelin each time.

Brilliant mana oil did not remove crusader when zoning into RFC. Hotfix hotfix or does it not work with instances?

henaki · 08/15/06, 5:55 PM

A guildie tested Instant Poison on his old Assassination Blade with Fiery on it. Nothing happened when he zoned into AV.

However, it might simply not work on proc based ones.

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 5:56 PM

I'm pissed that I wasted a charge of mana oil! >:( Testing from STV -> Durotar.

♦ Praetorian · 08/15/06, 5:58 PM

The poster of that thread kept referring to logging out rather than zoning. Maybe try that? Or maybe it's an inconsistent "hotfix." Or maybe the OP of that thread is full of shit.

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 5:59 PM

Rgr dodger. I'll log out as soon as my Windrider lands. (I am hearthed in Cenarion Hold, not Grom'gol. :ssh:)

Malan · 08/15/06, 5:59 PM

Originally Posted by ex-Wubwub

Brilliant mana oil did not remove crusader when zoning into RFC. Hotfix hotfix or does it not work with instances?

The DnT post on General talked about applying the oil and then logging out and back in to find the base enchant gone.

Zellyn · 08/15/06, 6:00 PM

Ok, so I just tested the bug by zoning back and forth between RFC and Org:

100 AP to Undead: no problems. Temp buff disappeared, Agi+15 remained.
Instant Poison VI: no problems. Temp buff disappeared, Agi+15 remained.
Dense Sharpening Stone: no problems. Temp buff disappeared, Agi+15 remained.

Starks · 08/15/06, 6:01 PM

Already hotfixed maybe?

• Maestroquark · 08/15/06, 6:02 PM

In light of this I wonder if all the extended maintainance servers will stay down until Blizzard checks this out ...

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 6:02 PM

Relogged in the Inn in Mojache. Crusader persisted.

It might be because the enchant is very old. I don't have any enchants that are pre like 1.9. I'm just a bad player. Hell the amberseal I am testing with has had Crusader since it was 63 dps.

Or it might've been hotfixed already.

A fucking nother charge of mana oil! :(

henaki · 08/15/06, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

The poster of that thread kept referring to logging out rather than zoning. Maybe try that? Or maybe it's an inconsistent "hotfix." Or maybe the OP of that thread is full of shit.

Perhaps it only works on certain realms? Remember the ones that were down for extended maintenance?

Zellyn · 08/15/06, 6:04 PM

Is Tichondrius (DnT's server) one of those?

♦ Praetorian · 08/15/06, 6:04 PM

Well if no one can confirm this even with mana oil, then my apologies for the unnecessary alarm. Odd.

• Maestroquark · 08/15/06, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by henaki

Originally Posted by Praetorian

The poster of that thread kept referring to logging out rather than zoning. Maybe try that? Or maybe it's an inconsistent "hotfix." Or maybe the OP of that thread is full of shit.

Perhaps it only works on certain realms? Remember the ones that were down for extended maintenance?

This could be an issue ... Blizzard has admitted before to running different versions on different servers (and hey, in the current post of the extended maintainance mentioned pushing new data to those servers).
OP could also just be having a little fun. We'll see.

Poke · 08/15/06, 6:07 PM

Originally Posted by Zellyn

Is Tichondrius (DnT's server) one of those?

You mean Korgath?

That's not the "real" DnT whose ranks include colorful personalities like XI.

Wubwub · 08/15/06, 6:07 PM

It's more likely it was hotfixed or someone is dumb and stirring drama. The bug forums are full of some dumb posts. I remember one guy complaining that the tooltip of his trueshot aura in the talent tree said 356 mana or something but when he cast the spell it took 200 more mana than that tooltip stated. The tooltip is level 1 and he was using level 3. :( I wouldn't blame BLI$$ for not reading their bug forums.

Nite_Moogle · 08/15/06, 6:09 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

Well if no one can confirm this even with mana oil, then my apologies for the unnecessary alarm.

This forum's reputation as a place to go for reliable, accurate and even-mannered discussion has been forever shattered by your crying wolf.

:rolleyes:

Starks · 08/15/06, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by ex-Wubwub

I wouldn't blame BLI$$ for not reading their bug forums.

I would. There's alot of issues I've seen reported there that Blizzard hasn't done anything about, for example the exploit to lay a freeze trap in combat has existed for months, despite an 11 page thread in the bug forums on the issue.