Just ran one today on Stonemaul-US for the Twilight Drake, and a smaller guild-only one after for the Black Drake. The 25-man got 906g per and the 10-man got 1520g per, for all of an hour and a half of raiding (and waiting in between the 2). The issue with doing mount runs is making sure you have high enough buyers to make doing a single boss worth everyone's while.

In the future, I'm considering setting a surcharge on people who don't have the TwiVanq/Nightfall titles just to keep cash flowing to the well-geared players just looking to make some money. We had maybe 5-10 new TwiVanqs, if I charge 500g that's 100g-200g to everyone which is decent and only cuts into 10-20% of their winnings anyway.

We went to TotCrusader yesterday with a 10man-Group.
Played it save, no horribly undergeared people, min Bids not too high.
The run was a breeze, I even spent too much tme explaining as everybody was familiar with the bosses already.
We got out after about an hour, 2k Pot, 200g for everyone. Most of the money came from a Priest.
I got no negative Feedback, it was a good atmosphere, and everybody said they'd do it again.
I'm relieved =)

I won't do 10man anymore - too much of a hassle (RL freaks me out - I'm always nervous ).
Also, I cancelled the Raid for today, but started a new Thread for next Sunday, as this Weekend,
a PvP-Event in Halaa crossed with the Raid and quite a few people that were interested had ID already.
I already got some requests and will post here for sure how it went.
It was interesting to suddenly have people from elite Guilds ASK for a place in your Randomraid =)

See You

Been venting this idea with my friends and raiding community on Argent Dawn, EU.
Definitely going to try this out and will start advertising GDKP today, to see how people react to it.

Not a very known person, so don't know how well I'll be accepted as a raid leader, but.. Gotta be a first for everything, no?

Yesterday I led my first successful GDKP pug in totc10. We cleared it in 50 minutes with only one wipe which was due to an overly ambitious tactic on Anub-Arak. The pot was fairly small, only 208g for each of us. But most of the people in the pug only came for the emblems anyway, so to them it was all bonus. Funnily, we ended up with 7 guildies and 3 randoms, two of which joined the guild afterwards and were excellent players. I really wanna try this on 25 man, since there's obviously more gold in it that way. But finding ten players who liked the concept was hard enough. I don't wanna think of how it will be to find 25.

The first week I ran Naxx as GDKP I managed to round up 23 players total... We earned 750g off the split at the end... it was hard getting those 23.

The second week (yesterday) I ran Naxx as GDKP I had 40 signups, a good portion of them showed up 10-15 minutes late and we actually started 10 minutes early. I had 5 people in raid who didn't sign up at all, just expressed interest at raid time. The split was 615G, and the run was infinitely smoother. (3 hours vs 5 hours)

I've now got people randomly /whispering me when I log in.

Thanks for the responses, aleyro and Zanthor. Trackwarcraft certainly looked useful enough, much easier than looking up achievements and such in armory. I did plan ahead quite a bit, and was spamming trade channel for an hour or so almost every afternoon the week before the run. Got a few whispers, but some didn't have the gear or the money, others couldn't make the raid time and I only had some 5-6 signups a day before the raid. Only a few of those who signed up were logged on by raid time, but a lot of guildies showed up in the last hour.

Anyway, everyone who was in the run liked it and I already have 9 signups for next week. That last sentence was probably a bit overly negative, cause it really looks a lot brigther now. I don't think I can get 25 people by next weekend, but in 2 weeks it should be more than doable. I want to take things slow rather than get a reputation for making useless groups. Spinebreaker EU is a pretty small server.

Ran Lightbringer's first GDKP run today. TOC 25, split was 1370g each. Everyone loved the idea and I mostly attracted other "top quality" raiders, who knew what to do. Zero wipes, 6 deaths overall, I now have people sending me tells left and right for a spot next week.

Several of the players were officers of other raiding guilds on the server, I fully expect to see other GDKP runs pop up as people get sat from mine. Thanks again for the great OP.

First, we have to narrow our definition of inflation a bit. Let's narrow it to the AH, since that's the benchmark of prices for tradable goods. This hypothsis hinges on the idea that GKDP doesn't create inflation because the value created is inacessible to the AH.

First, let's define at what AH-accessible value is created. Apart from what Daenerys proposed (gold redistibuted to players who might have tradable good demands), the only value created relevant to the AH is the actual money drops, vendored items, and AH-ed BoE item drops. That's not significant compared to everyone's real concern: pots of tens of thousands of gold.

GKDP runs deal primarily in non-transferrable goods i.e. BoP items. This isolates it from AH, since the AH is all about goods transfer. As far as the AH is concerned, I just gave my friends 5000g (or whatever). It doesn't care that I got a weapon for it, because that weapon will only affect the tradable goods economy when I enchant it, gem it, shard it, and/or vendor it.

What GDKP actually does is monetize a portion of the WoW gameplay that didn't exist before, and does so in almost complete isolation from the AH. Incidentally, it also largely isolates one server from another; the only exploit would be to transfer your character to a server with many GKDP runs (see next point), get your items, and transfer back and leech gold.

What an increasing number of GDKP runs on a given server will do is cause GKDP (and therefore gold) deflation, where demand drops (fewer people are looking for Death's Verdict) and supply increases.

As fewer people are looking for those items, there should be fewer GDKP runs. After some period of an initial spike in demand, the supply of those BoP items should stabilize and scale with the number of GDKP runs.

But many GDKP items are substitutes for BoE craftables. If one can get Skyweaver Vestments for 3k, one won't spend 10k on Merlin's Robe. So the guy who picks up Skyweaver Vestments in GDKP cost the AH some sales of the mats for Merlin's Robes. This causes deflation on BoE gear prices

The runs also may increase the total number of successful ToC25 raids on a server, increasing how many badges people have and the number of Crusader Orbs and Crafting Recipes in circulation. This deflates those prices further.

Finally, I would argue that the distribution of wealth affects its velocity. There is a limit on how much one can spend outside of a GDKP run. If I've got 200k gold, I'd wager that 150k of it is just sitting there, uninvested and unspent. Mr. Moneybags at goldcap has a high savings ratio. By contrast, players with 2k gold spend their gold, and have a low savings ratio. If you hand a 100k-gold player 2000g, easily 1500g of it will do nothing but sit in the bank. Because there's no loan mechanism, that money is out of circulation. If you hand a poor (sub 50k gold) player 2000g, in all likelihood only a few hundred of it will make it into the bank - the rest goes back into circulation, while that player takes that 1500g and buys enchants or gems or powerlevels a profession or something.

Increased circulation of money would be the cause of AH inflation. The amount of money hasn't changed, but because it's in more hands, it has more entry points into the market, causing inflation.

Items like Death's Choice or Dual-Bladed Butcher are like 20% drops. Even at 5 GDKP runs per week, that's still only 1 DDB/week. I suspect Icecrown will drop (lessening interest in ToC25 gear) before even a plurality of players who want those items badly have them.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have a lot of gold versus the "poor" in WoW. It's nothing impressive to have amassed and I'm not really trying to impress anyone. But if I get new gold it's got a 100% savings rate. The primary cause of inflation is "too much money chasing too few goods". If GDKP hands me money that otherwise was chasing BoEs on the AH, of course it has a negative affect on inflation.

But before we get all excited, there's that "day I decided to spend some of the gold". Maybe it was after I ran in a GDKP run and picked up 2k. So I look on the AH and, lo and behold, that idiotically overpriced Cloak of the Iron Council suddenly looks good for my warrior alt. Uh oh, I'm now causing inflation.

The person of this story isn't about me, of course. It could be generically applied. The AH is an incredibly inefficient market with prices that swing gigantically from day to do. This is most especially true of expensive BoEs. Perhaps the guy wanting to spend 2k on the AH did spend it in the GDKP run. So in fact, his action was deflationary. But my windfall from being there was inflationary.

It's hard to imagine that too many people are going to be able to reliably predict any aggregate effect on inflation from a redistribution of gold. By contrast, there is a great history in WoW of inflation coming with new batches of dailies -- which create too much money but no new goods to chase. GDKP moves some money to the losers. And it definitely makes crafted gear somewhat less necessary if it cause ToC runs to form that otherwise were not going to form: the drops replace the craftables. But it also makes people richer to buy the craftables. You sure you want to forecast which force is more powerful?