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Old 05/04/07, 12:26 AM   #766
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Originally Posted by Ozbourn View Post
I swear Sam Summer used to taste better. I think last year they started adding more lemon and now it's a bit too sweet (not as bad if you get it on tap though). I've gone back to harpoon summer and dogfish head 90 minute as my warm weather staples.
I thought that about all of their seasonal/flavored stuff also, but eventually decided that I just got older and my taste got better. A long time ago I used to like Budweiser because I was 16 and Beer was "cool"...

I just can't get into any of it with the exception of the Winter Ale nowadays.

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Old 05/04/07, 12:37 AM   #767
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I actually picked up some Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat the other day, completely by the recommendation of this thread. Sadly, I was pretty disappointed. Completely agree with Kaubel about it being more of a good, gateway beer to bigger and better things.

On the other hand I did pick up a pack of the Dogfish 60 minute IPA and it has been delicious. Nice color, and a good, strong, hoppy flavor. Definitely a good recommendation as others have said, and even a good start for newcomers to beer in general I would say.

As for my contribution to the thread, I would have to say that a good bottle of Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter is very high up there on my list of good beers. There is just something about a beer that I can't see through, yet remains extremely drinkable, with or without a meal. I am sure others have had it, but I didn't see it mentioned, so I figured I would bring it up.

On another note, I browsed through the thread again the other day before I went to the liquor store and happened upon the part about Brooklyn Brewery again. After seeing a great variety of it at the store, I couldn't help but wonder-- any specific beer from them that will just knock my socks off? Or is it just a good pub in general?

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Old 05/04/07, 4:48 AM   #768
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Originally Posted by ex-Bad Luck View Post
Is there anything in the mass-market that is similar to this that I would like?
It'll probably be hard to match that really close, but as a couple people mentioned you could likely approach the general area by drinking most any tripel Belgian ale. What they describe in that quote of yours is some manner of trappist ale, but what you describe seems to stray from the basics of a trappist a fair bit.

The Grande Réserve Chimay in the blue label that Phalanx mentioned might be a place to start looking. Chimay's actual Tripel is pretty light, so probably not what you're after. (Still, all three of their trappists are pretty nice and worth trying.)

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But really, if you're going to drink New Belgium, there's no reason to drink anything other than Fat Tire and 1554.
I feel pretty much the same way about their stuff. 1554 is best appreciated by many of the people I know after they've had at least one or two of something lighter to prime them, but I like it most anytime.

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Terrapin is a beer company based out of Athens, Georgia (home of the main campus of the University of Georgia) and I'm drinking their Rye Pale Ale as I type this.
I'll give this a try on the coming weekend. We almost picked up some of that last weekend, but none of us were very familiar with their stuff so we balked and grabbed other things instead.

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Originally Posted by Grollus View Post
On another note, I browsed through the thread again the other day before I went to the liquor store and happened upon the part about Brooklyn Brewery again. After seeing a great variety of it at the store, I couldn't help but wonder-- any specific beer from them that will just knock my socks off? Or is it just a good pub in general?
Depends heavily on which types of beer you most like. If you're not a dark beer fan, even some of the best darker brews in the world will still taste pretty bad to ya.

Here's my take on Brooklyn Brewery stuff. Almost every brew they make can be good, but for whatever reason, they can also be really damn bad at times. The first time I tried their Lager, I absolutely loved it. When I tried it again a year or two later, it was awful and I have no idea why. I haven't had a bottle anything like my original taste, since; and I stopped trying. I dunno. All of their stuff has been like this, for me; but the majority are only ever bad once in a blue moon. I think they actually changed something about the lager.

My sure favorites:

Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout -- I think it might be seasonal only, but it is pretty awesome when it's good.

Brooklyn Brown Ale -- Like Newcastle even a tiny bit? A good batch of this beats the pants off of non-local Newcastle.

Monster Ale -- It's a barleywine thing that is sneaky as hell. Not for everybody. It's batch brewed by the year and not always easy to find. I liked it, but it creeps on you something fierce. You can have several and be fine, then out of nowhere you're smashed. I guess most heavy barleywine's do that, though.

I don't like their IPA that much, but tons of people swear by it. If you like IPA's in general, it probably wouldn't be bad to at least try one. Their regular ale is pretty meh. Their pilsner is okay.

There's a couple of great brews they produce that you can't buy bottled at all. One of them is a low-volume Antwerp thing. If you're actually in a pub and they have a Brooklyn Brewery offering on tap that you've never seen in a bottle, it will very likely be pretty damned good.

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I'm currently nursing an Avery White Rascal. It's a spice-brewed Belgian-style wheat ale from that microbrewery in Colorado. Tiny bit of orange in it. Extremely light. Nothing astounding. I wouldn't drink more than a couple in an evening before moving to something better, but I do like the aftertaste quite a lot and it's got a cool label. (Course, I'm a sucker for all wheat beers and most anything with yeast in the bottom of the bottle; so take that as you will.)

Avery has a pretty damn good IPA, which is why I ended up trying the beer I'm currently drinking.
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Old 05/04/07, 8:02 AM   #769
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Originally Posted by ex-Slug View Post
1554 is best appreciated by many of the people I know after they've had at least one or two of something lighter to prime them, but I like it most anytime.
Sam Adams Black Lager is similar for those who can't find 1554. And if you like either of those, Shiner 97 is worth a try as well.

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Old 05/04/07, 9:20 AM   #770
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Originally Posted by ex-Slug View Post
My sure favorites:

Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout -- I think it might be seasonal only, but it is pretty awesome when it's good.

Brooklyn Brown Ale -- Like Newcastle even a tiny bit? A good batch of this beats the pants off of non-local Newcastle.

Monster Ale -- It's a barleywine thing that is sneaky as hell. Not for everybody. It's batch brewed by the year and not always easy to find. I liked it, but it creeps on you something fierce. You can have several and be fine, then out of nowhere you're smashed. I guess most heavy barleywine's do that, though.

I don't like their IPA that much, but tons of people swear by it. If you like IPA's in general, it probably wouldn't be bad to at least try one. Their regular ale is pretty meh. Their pilsner is okay.

There's a couple of great brews they produce that you can't buy bottled at all. One of them is a low-volume Antwerp thing. If you're actually in a pub and they have a Brooklyn Brewery offering on tap that you've never seen in a bottle, it will very likely be pretty damned good.
These are pretty much my favorites from Brooklyn as well. Sans the Black Chocolate Stout, can't get into it.

However, I'd thought I'd atleast mention a stout that I really like: Victory Storm King Stout. Had it a the local BBQ joint a week or so ago (where I first had a 2005 Monster Ale, there are cases of the 2006 at my local BotW, one of which I will pick up later today). It was smooth and tasty, no overwhelming smokey flavor which I don't typically like.

I'm currently nursing an Avery White Rascal. It's a spice-brewed Belgian-style wheat ale from that microbrewery in Colorado. Tiny bit of orange in it. Extremely light. Nothing astounding. I wouldn't drink more than a couple in an evening before moving to something better, but I do like the aftertaste quite a lot and it's got a cool label. (Course, I'm a sucker for all wheat beers and most anything with yeast in the bottom of the bottle; so take that as you will.)

Avery has a pretty damn good IPA, which is why I ended up trying the beer I'm currently drinking.
Avery has a pretty diverse lineup, I'll put that on the list to try. I'm also going to try and pick up their Thirteen, which is probably at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I really wish I could get New Belgium and Shiner varieties in NY.

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Old 05/04/07, 3:25 PM   #771
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Originally Posted by Kaubel View Post
Sam Adams Black Lager is similar for those who can't find 1554. And if you like either of those, Shiner 97 is worth a try as well.
I've been rotating between Black Lager and 1554 for dark beer, depending on where I stop to buy the 6-pack. Either one is good though I have a preference for the 1554, just seems better "constructed" (I'll guess that's the wrong word, but it's the best I can come up with).

That 1554 is shockingly good. It's rapidly climbing into my favorites.

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Old 05/04/07, 7:18 PM   #772
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I agree completely. If I had to choose one or the other, I'd definitely go with 1554.

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Old 05/04/07, 8:27 PM   #773
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ZOMG! BEEER!!!!

And with that I'd like to recommend a personal favourite, Youngs Double Chocolate Stout. It's a stout (if you don't believe me, read the name of the brew again) and it's got a pleasant aftertaste of chocolate.

In addition I find that Hoegaarden is a nice beer for just having something while you chat around in general whereas Leffe is a bit too fruity for my taste.

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Old 05/05/07, 6:58 PM   #774
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My favorite beer is called Dragonmead's Final Absolution, a belgian style trippel ale. I'm not sure how much distribution this gets outside of Michigan, but I highly recommend visiting Dragonmead's brewpub in Warren if you get the chance.

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Old 05/07/07, 12:38 PM   #775
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Has anyone ever gotten their hands on a Dark Lord Imperial Stout from Three Floyds? Just been reading a bit about the beer, I guess it's offered once a year (at pretty high prices) during their beer festivals/events. Looks like it has a bunch of hype and it's begun to attract the ebayers (not that I mind, I would probably buy one if the price was right). I'm already looking at doing the same for Westvleteren 12°, though I don't think that it normally leaves Belgium, anyways.

Also, picked up two bottles of Rochefort 10 this weekend. Can't wait to try one. Snagged a Sam Adams Double Bock, too. I will probably have this tonight.

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Old 05/07/07, 1:46 PM   #776
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Has anyone ever gotten their hands on a Dark Lord Imperial Stout from Three Floyds? Just been reading a bit about the beer, I guess it's offered once a year (at pretty high prices) during their beer festivals/events. Looks like it has a bunch of hype and it's begun to attract the ebayers (not that I mind, I would probably buy one if the price was right). I'm already looking at doing the same for Westvleteren 12°, though I don't think that it normally leaves Belgium, anyways.

Also, picked up two bottles of Rochefort 10 this weekend. Can't wait to try one. Snagged a Sam Adams Double Bock, too. I will probably have this tonight.
My old roommate has had a couple Dark Lords, and says they are incredible. Unfortunately Three Floyds has apparently pulled distribution from around where I live, so getting one (or the fabled Dreadnaught) will be even harder for me.

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Old 05/21/07, 8:32 PM   #777
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Bought 6-packs each of Samuel Adams White Ale and Summer Ale. Both are good but not outstanding, go well with virtually any food, and aren't overly fruity like I thought they'd be. Also very drinkable so they really are summer, sessional beers.

If you like unfiltered wheats, you'll like these.

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Old 05/21/07, 9:47 PM   #778
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I recently snagged a six pack of the Long Trail Hefeweizen, and I find it quite good. It's not as crisp as other pale beer, so it provides a nice bridge into summer that you can keep drinking. Vermont is still kinda chilly overall, so I'm not looking for something with a really crisp finish at the moment.

I'll have to give the White Ale a shot - I didn't like the Summer ale at all the last few times I tried it, I thought it had too much lemon.

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Old 05/21/07, 10:05 PM   #779
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From the Sam Adams website:
One can not help but appreciate Samuel Adams® Double Bock's huge malt character. We use an enormous amount of malt, half a pound per bottle, to brew this intensely rich lager. Its deep brown-ruby color is all made in the kettle - no black malt is used, resulting in a rich sweetness that is free of the rough taste of burnt malt. All that remains is the velvet smooth flavor and mouthfeel of the two row malt. Samuel Adams® Double Bock's intense malt character is balanced with a subtle piney, citrus hop note from the German Noble hops.
I finally ran across some Double Bock in my local stores and it's amazing - it's almost rich and malty enough to pass for a milkshake.


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Old 05/22/07, 4:31 AM   #780
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Whoever it was that told me to pick up some Breckenridge Avalanche a while back, I finally got around to it last weekend and I like it quite a bit. Not a bad brew at all.

I liked the Sam Adams White when I had it, but I tend to love most decent quality unfiltered wheats, so it's not like that says much.

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