A few guild mates of mine were arguing about this trinket earlier.. and who it's best for Dagger Rogues, Sword Rogues, Fury Warriors, MS Warriors, or Hunters. One of the major arguments was that Warriors/Hunters get alot more dmg from Pure White dmg along w/ the Haste helping Aimshot casttime.

I don't think it really matters an awful lot which melee dps class you give it to.

Yeah, but the interesting thing for rogues is SnD + Blade Flurry + KotF.
That is rampage.

Yea and kots+flurry=bigger rage generation=heroic strike spam with deathwish and swarmguard badge=stupid amount of damage.

In the end, everyone has good uses for this, it's somewhat like the DFT(but well DFT is not THAT great for hunters, because the DM trinket is so stupidly overpowered), and even tho you could probably theorycraft which class has the best use for it, it'll all depend on gear/spec. Just give it to whoever has been in your guild the longest imo, or something like that, don't go for a class specifically.

As a kind of rule: if you really have to seriously theorycraft about an item in order to determine which class gets priority...you might think about giving priority to all classes in question. Just my 2 cents :)

Actually, the DFT is one of the best trinkets you can get with a hunter pre-Naxx.

If the tank can hold agro, this is wacko for a fury warrior. The refresh time means you can probably use it twice in most fights. On a fight like patchwork, combine it with deathwith and reckless for chain execute spam.

God let's not go there again I'm sure the last thread on the topic made a few hunters feel guilty about having stopped rogues from getting it.

How much +hit does a hunter in aq/naxx gear have? and how much does he need for endgame raiding?

My point is, is the +hit on this thing absolutely worth nothing to a hunter?

If it is, then take away hunter-prio on this thing. Warrios i wont comment cus im unable to do it unbiased.

We're going to start giving them to mages soon as compensation for still using azuresong mageblade after nearly 2 months of naxx. :science:

Someone said it did not help hunters, at all?
Did that get fixed?

I'm sure it does stack with Rapid Fire, it's just like any other haste effect (It would stack with Berserking and Quick Shots as well).

It seems that no one in this thread is really going beyond the argument of "Well, it would be really cool if x class got this because they could stack it with this ability and that talent." One thing I do not understand in the original post is why Arms warriors would get this over Fury warriors - if anything, the +hit makes it more of a fury warrior item.

Anyways, I still think that this should be open to any physical DPS class. The +hit could be useful or worthless to a hunter depending on their gear and spec - you can't just make a sweeping generalization and say that +hit is useless or useful to all hunters and then adjust your class priority system based on that, in my opinion. But, I will say this - It would be really cool if a Troll hunter got this because they could stack it with Rapid Fire, Berserking and Quick Shots. :P

It is fixed but someone said it messes with your aimed shot cycles and doesn't speed up the casting time, which all other haste items do.

I think the next Wraith Blade we get is getting denched or going to an alt, but we've never seen a KotS. Funny how that works.

Seriously, though, KotS is good for everyone, as much as I'm loathe to admit hunters might actually have a claim to a DPS trinket, and thus everyone should have a crack at it.

It is the proverbial dark edge of the RNG determining loot.

This is very much not true -- there are lots of people with SotSF and such who have been waiting for the last few people to replace their crap weapons in order to get Wraith Blades.

Wraith Blade + Sapp offhand is optimal short of Atiesh.

What a shame Jom Gabbar is on the same cooldown :D

:(

Not that I actually want it.

But :(

Arguing which DPS class to give this too is like arguing which healing class should get Scarab Brooch. It really should be open to all 3.

If you want to get technical about it ... It would only affect Rogue's white DPS, and not their specials in any way. Warrior specials are based on their white damage generating rage, so it would allow for a bigger increase in warrior DPS most likely. If it manages to affect Aimed Shot casting time in addition to auto-shots, it could be of great use to a hunter, however if it doesn't affect Aimed Shots then it is completely useless for anyone with Crossbow of Smiting since it would screw up the 9 second rotation.

Uhh what? This trinket is a crazy upgrade over anything a Rogue could reasonbly have accompanying a DFT at that point in progression. For me, going from ES to KoTS as my active trinket was like a 15 DPS or so upgrade.

hunters need between +8 and +9 hit for raiding (8.6 i believe). cryptstalker has +1 hit on chest, bracers, belt, and boots, with an extra 2 hit from ZG enchants, for +6 'default' hit from the set, meaning you need to find +3 hit elsewhere for an optimal setup. DFT and KOTS can provide that if you need it, along with Prestor's and the AQ exalted ring, but an optimal setup will probably want the KOTS for the +hit so you can use slayer's crest and the +2 crit neck/band of reanimation/ring of the cryptstalker.

in short - yes, hunters still want the +hit.

Unless I'm missing something, can't a hunter just get a scope on their ranged weapon for that 3% hit? Either way I still feel KotS should be equal priority to all 3 dps classes.