We recently killed C'thun for the first time (lastnight) much thanks to organizational help on these boards. So we to keep the kill and experience fresh we went into aq40 again today with the intent of clearing up to Cthun and killing him again tomorrow. We did a record clear (for us) going from Skeram to dead emps in 3 hours with a server trash included only to find a delightful little cockblock.

Which is that mindslayer packs are now chaining anywhere from 2-8 people from a SINGLE MINDFLAY. Needless to say when we hit a 4 mindslayer pack it was pretty gruesome. We tried everything,spreading them out,zerging them up. We stopped at flasking up (except our two MTs still had them from emps) and managed to get 3 down with 25 people still up,problem was only 4 of those were healers. With 9 tanks it would be fairly easy,as you wouldnt have to worry about the mind controls and them running into anothers zone and mindflaying healers.

Has anyone managed to get by these guys yet? And if so,share some tips -_-

Who the hell wanted that trash to be more difficult,their already tougher then almost all the bosses before with exception of maybe vicidus.

Oh boy, please not.

Oh crap, just as we were beginning to get a hang of the entryprocess...

Guess we'll start from scratch next time then.

It sounds like once you pull a boss everyone will be put on his hate list immediately now.
At least that would explain Razuvious running past an Iceblocked Mage and C'Thun beaming other people than the MT during the pull.

That would require the abilities to be triggered by the actual aggro ranking.
Don't think the eye beam and mindflay works this way.

Do you think they'll fix this or do you think it is intended?

Blizzard has long tradition of breaking mob spells during patches. This might be just like when they gave Chromaggus nullify-like Time Lapse and Corpse Scarabs from Anub to lvl 55ish Crypt Walkers in EPL.

For groups still getting Ouro and/or C'Thun attempts in, and struggling with what was already pretty difficult trash (and a LOT of it), this is a slap in the face. I'm not on the bleeding edge, and I know the norm there is broken content (and lord knows I respect those of you who deal with that all the time). For us, though, this really hurts. Maybe we'll find out it is a bug. My sense, though, is that this is an intended change, based on the rationale of "C'Thun drops loot much better than much of Naxx, we should make the clear to him significantly harder in order to bring it more in line with Naxx." We'll see, I guess.

We got out first C'thun kill last night, and took ouro to 31%.
Now I have to decide wether we should just drop everything post twins and focus on Naxx. I geuss the first step will be to relearn Raz.
Pretty thoughtless changes IMO.

I was just about ready to admit that the pre-Razuvious trash in Naxx was more tedious than the post-Emps trash in AQ40. No longer can I even consider making that assertion.

Trash confirmed as bugged by Blue.
No word on C'thun or Raz.

Judia