You do know he's tauntable?

Correctly.

Tank <-10 yards-> Raid <-10 yards-> Tank

He'll just ping-poing across your tanks.

Alternately you can treat it like most people treat Mar'ii and have an out of range tank standing with the dps/healers who taunts and drags bloodlord back to the MT. Also have your shamans drop searing totems near the MT... sometimes he will reaggro on those and it makes everyone's job simpler.

Also I've said for ages that the spears were a LoS bug that was going to be fixed :V

Still to this day, during our late night idol runs, we keep the Raptor offtanked the whole fight. We always assumed the increase in Mandokir's damage was higher than keeping one healer on the raptor tank. I'm curious if anyone has actually tested this.

If you're doing ZG in blues or ZG epics, yah the dmg from his enrage of killing the raptor first probably is not something you want to do.
If you're clearing ZG for enchants in Tier 2 or 3, screw that noise, kill the raptor first. The enrage only lasts for like 20 seconds or something, its not the entire time. You'll barely even notice it.

Actually scrub that - I tanked Bloodlord through the enrage on my warrior alt who has a wrath helm, bracers of might, and and a couple of AQ40 tanking gear from the first couple of bosses. Its just dependant on your healers.

My guild found that, if the raptor is held sufficiently close to Mandokir, the random charges stop entirely. To get an idea of how close, one of your offtanks could have to stand well within whirlwind range to pull the raptor in. Once raptor is close enough, offtanks swing around so that they're out of whirlwind range, making sure not to pull the raptor away from Mandokir.

As long as the raptor is close and nobody makes him angry, Mandokir will never charge.

If I'd noticed this thread yesterday I would've just heaped it. Now that people have posted constructively in it, I just edited the title.

Please keep thread titles containing "Omg" and " :( " off the forums, thanks.

On warrior-heavy nights, we actually put two tanks on the raptor, and switched aggro to let the debuff reset. A single healer could then be assigned to both off-tanks and still help on the MT.

Of course, that takes a warrior who could be DPSing Bloodlord and takes them out of the picture. This is more of a slow-and-steady approach.

On low-warrior nights, we'd just throw three hunter pets at the raptor, and toss them the occaisonal heal, with the expectation that all the pets would die at the end.

Was all this worth it to avoid the enrage? I'm not entirely sure it was, but our raid leader disagreed. It worked coonsistently, though.

id say keep the raptor alive. the dps you would lose from the 1-2 warriors on him is minimal. Melee dps on blood lord has to move in and out alot to avoid the whirl wind (or die like morons and make the boss stronger). having 2 less wont be a big hit to your dps imo.

Until recently, guilds I've raided with had always killed the raptor and never used the spears exploit. It was more the charges and whirlwinds that hurt us and less Mandokir's enrage. These were raids with people in half to full tier one gear. We used careful aggro management and had few problems with Mandokir once people got the rhythm of the fight down.

If you have problems with charges, your raid needs to treat charges like Mandokir is watching someone. When Mandokir charges, tell your ranged players to stop dps so that Mandokir will return to the tank. The person being charged should definitely stop whatever they are doing because they will completely screw themselves if they hit #1 on Mandokir's threat list while he is off the tank.

This is why, for a small guild that is just getting into raiding, Mandokir is good prep for Onyxia.