• frmorrison

Mute finally released the video. I watched some of it, it was just as funny as the other two.

I enjoy the monologues at the beginning, had a few good laughs.


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• Bad Luck

You were the Eddie of Warcraft.

You were the Sol of Warcraft would have been good too. DUST LOOP LOOOOOL

 

Tzeni

World of rogue craft is sooooo patch 1.4

DL'ing regardless, I'm a whore for wow videos.

 

Renaldo

Waste of time watching it, in my opinion.

Well, it's useful if you want to become a politician. You learn to shove words in people's mouths and spread biased propaganda.

 

• Wodin

I was sorta sad. The production values were nice, but the fights were boring(too many fights performing the same specific combination over and over) and he completely failed the "scales with gear in pvp" argument even though we do, by highlighting fights where he was blowing cooldowns left and right to win anyways. I was most disappointed, I think, by the lack of reversal fights - he never bothered to show how a truly skilled rogue gets out of the "oh snap, polymorphed from nowhere" or "hunters mark + aimshot crit, what do I do now?" situations that I've seen better video creators like Dahis show.

Edit: I have to give him credit for the "want to see my pvp video?" bit at the end. That was classic.

 

Shugorei

Surely it's due your highly analytical skills and critical eye that you came up with this amazing commentary without even having to watch the video.

 

Emeraude

The first half was good.

"If a Rogue had all their cooldowns every fight they'd be grossly overpowered"

15 minutes of footage of people being stun-locked with every cooldown in the Rogue book of tricks without being able to move an inch.

"A Good Rogue doesn't need cooldowns to win every fight."

That's where the video broke down because he's essentially went back to just popping multipule cooldowns each and every fight, if he burned 1 per fight that was one thing, but A. Rush? Come on now...

I did enjoy the beginning, about Rogues being the most nerfed class in the game, as a Warrior I chuckled when the Rogue started crying about how he can't beat anyone anymore, which is JUST how the Rogue fourms sound, "I used to beat everyone, now I can't beat anyone.""The Eddie of Warcraft" line is in my sig on the new WoW boards.

I also laughed out loud at the dialog mid video. "I have to wait hole minutes to do it again! *Hysterically* MINUTES!!!!!"

And of course the "Rogue PvP video" spoof at the end was golden, with Ja Rule playing and the Rogue having 2 minutes of walking around taking his weapons out heh. Silly Rogues, tricks are for kids.

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Jimwhig

I suspect that partly dates back to, "rogues always get the first hit in PvP, and before that the opponent is unaware of them." In that situation, hunters probably won't break the stunlock, and even if a mage does Ice Block out of it, and PoM-Poly, you can still (tested in 1.12, still in the game) vanish out of it so long as you hit the vanish button during the polying animation.

Turnarounds would certainly be nice to see though, yes.

I agree about too much repetitive PvP too. However, I think the majority of the PvP in decent gear was to demonstrate that, using the same tactics as previously, the fights went much faster, i.e. just to illustrate how slow the naked-worn combo really is.

That said, I'm suprised he didn't include warping (which, as of 1.12, is now freaking hyper warping >.<)

And the PvP video at the end was superb. :D

 

fishwaffle

I wanted to like it, I really did! But between the voice acting that was like nails on a blackboard, 15 minute marathons of mindnumbingly similar fights (with one of the marathons involving cooldown after cooldown RIGHT after saying rogues don't need cooldowns), several opponents obviously not being very good, etc. I found myself hating it and skipping about 20 minutes of dumb fights. I enjoyed the final music video part, though it obviously applies to 99% of music videos by all classes!

 

ayb

I loved the total stunlocking at the start and the pvp video at the end. Good stuff in my opinion

 

djor

I liked this thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...52970&pageNo=1 which contains about 5 pages of random_NE_rogue_001 missing the point of the first 15 min of stunlocking. "lolz he use cooldown every fight and say rouge imba!!"

This just reminds me why I would still be playing daoc if I wanted to pvp.

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Rane

High amusement factor, especially seeing some famous Ret fellas getting their asses kicked, but low educational value which I sort of expect from the series.

Extra pro points for the aforementioned pvp video at the end tho.

You will like this thread even more: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...53683&pageNo=1

Page 2 top post is an absolute winner.

 

Crowbite

Speaking of rogue videos, who makes good ones? I watched the corrupt one that just resently showed up on warcraftmovies, and can say I was impressed. Who else should I search for?

 

Crossbones

This one was too much straight-up PvP. It lacked the the amount of jokes/gimmicks as the other ones. I still enjoyed it thought -- love the rogue PvP vid at the end.

I kind of wish we got more than "warlocks got buffed" seeing the second episode had such an emphasis on warlocks.

 

delljit

Not quite as good as no.2, i felt that it seemed rather repetitive. The "pvp video" at the end was pretty funny though, and redeemed the rest of the video.

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Lateralus

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Perkulator

My favorite rogue videos, though they may not necessarily be 'good ones'.

 

Kytrarewn

This is my favorite rogue PvP video probably.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=7034

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CrazyGamer

I'm a bit disappointed. He could have cut out 15 minutes of PvP and still gotten the point across nicely. Too much PvP and too far between the jokes IMO though the dialogue was great as usual.

Part 2 is still my favorite, with the absolute top scene being his explanation of game balance.

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Renaldo

Actually, I watched it. And I concluded that the 40 minutes I took to watch it could have been spent doing something more entertaining.

He begins by saying that rogues don't need every single cooldown to win a fight. Then he shows him killing people using every single cooldown twice. Which, I might add, got really repetitive really fast. All you need to do is see the first two fights of him fighting naked and you've seen them all. He also picks a bad time to show it. He starts off by saying that rogues don't need all their cooldowns, but then he shows us how he used every single cooldown, twice. Granted, he was naked against high ranking players, but come on... He could have chosen to show something else so that his comment about cooldowns doesn't stay in our mind while he burns his cooldowns like a crack addict.

And when he puts all his gear on, he still uses at least 2 cooldowns per fight. (Excepting when the fight he uses thistle tea on cloth... In which case he shouldn't need it.) So what was the point he was making again? Oh yeah, cooldowns.

Also, the fights. He always gets the jump on people. Like Wodin said, where are the fights where he gets marked and aim shot critted but still manages to beat the hunter? Where are the 3 on 1 fights, the fights where it's the rogue versus 7 players consequitvely? Where are the shadow priests with 5k HP and +450 spell damage? The 6.6k HP warlock? 5k HP 6K MP +400 spell damage frost mages? Also, not all of his opponents knew how to play their class as effectively as Mute.

I have to admit, the last part was a little entertaining though. But not worth the 30 other minutes of watching him do the same routine on person after person though.

 

Savos

I don't think any of it is to show PvP prowess, rather showing how absurdly good things become if you actually use the skills inate to the class.

Many of his fights he never even takes damage except when there are nearby players. That's the point.

 

tenarius

Or the Maxi.. or the Cable.

Honestly I'd much rather talk about fighting games than pvp videos, but since this thread seems to be about the latter; I thought parts of it were creative but such videos typically bore me quickly. I enjoyed the Master of Pain video because it has a lot of big numbers, however, and gnome rogues are funny (Hi Kalman!).

 

Sedulous

I like how the video more or less implies that only rogues are mostly bad at pvp. This is pretty much the chain of events described in the first part.

1. Rogues are overpowered
2. Most rogues win not because of skill, but because of imbalance
3. Other classes are buffed
4. Most rogues lose to other players now that classes are on more even terms

Coupled with his attempt to amaze viewers with win after win versus absolutely terrible pvpers, I can't really conclude anything other than this guy thinks rogues and only rogues are mostly bad at pvp, whereas most players of other classes are good at pvp.

 

• Wodin

Look for Dahis. Probably the best technical rogue I've seen.

 

Deathwing

Sorry for slight derail.

Watching this video reminded me about something I miss. It was either the old SCT(pre version 5) or Blizzard's default, but I liked the old way of scrolling damage text. Crits would really POP onto the screen, they would stay there but to the left of your normal spam, and most importantly, the damage was above the monster's head. Now, that's a bit bad on tall bosses, and I've tried blizzard's current implementation, but I abhor the sesame street letters they are using.

Anyone know if it's possible to do what I want with the new SCTD?