Torael_7

I'm not sure if the option exists anymore, but I believe you're referring to "sticky crits", so that's what you should look for. If it's still there it will be a checkbox, if I recall correctly.

 

Deathwing

Sticky crits has the problem of staying over damage you do after it, so you can't read it. The old stuff allowed the crits to stay around, but off to the side.

 

henaki

On the topic of fighting games, a new guilty gear is being loke tested in Japan right now :) Not an expansion like Slash, but a "sequel" with new system mechanics and shit.

Roguecraft 1 itself was rather bland, it had great dialogue but too much unintresting PvP.

Gur - Level 64 Undead Warlock on Hellfire

 

• GokieKS

Even here the point is lost on many people... sigh. Neither of the two PvP segments are designed to show that "rogues can PvP fine w/o cooldowns."

The naked PvP scenes are to illustrate why the rogue abilities have cooldowns. Listen to the line just prior to the scene starts: "If a rogue had all their cooldowns for every fight, they would be absurdly overpowered." The naked PvP scenes, where he uses all the cooldowns for every fight and is able to kill much better geared opponents despite using a worn dagger and no armor, prove that.

The geared PvP scenes are to illustrate the scaling of the class with gear that so many rogues like to claim is non-existant: "If rogues don't scale, then gear shouldn't make any difference. And pvp shouldn't be any easier in epics than it is naked." After that, he goes on to show how a very well geared rogue can kill everyone so much easier, including taking on multiple opponents at once.

I will agree that Ep. 1 was not as well made or full of witty dialog that Ep. 3 and 2 were, but then I understand that they run out of material to work with. But that Polzie PvP video spoof made the video - simply hilarious.

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Takezo

One of my all-time favorites has to be Shurrik's PvP #2. It's very old (think a piece of two of Nightslayer/Gutgore/Felstriker as bleeding edge), but has great production value and still showcases a good amount of skill. I haven't watched in a good while, though, so I'm not sure how it's aged: http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=2415

And the Nerf Sap series is seriously impressive stuff; Happyminti cheerily rolls crowds of players that ougear and outnumber her thanks to quick thinking and enough Tubers/NDB to feed a small army. All of them are worth a look. I believe he (she?) has retired by now, unfortunately.

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=6791 (Nerf Sap 1)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=9000 (Nerf Sap 3)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=9982 (Nerf Sap 4)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=11779 (Nerf Sap 5)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=13611 (Nerf Sap 6)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=18627 (Nerf Sap 7)

 

Felippe

Just judging the video on it's entertainment factor, it was solid in the beginning, but then too many PvP scenes without the witty dialogue that we all know and love.

But oh man the ending was worth it. "sooo I've been workin on a pvp video...wanna see it?"

I played on the same server as Happyminti and in Nerf Sap 7 (the only video I watched) he was one of the better geared rogues on the server at the time of the filming. Also he never attacked anybody from the top guilds. Most of his targets make poor decisions, like healing classes not healing in a 2v1 situation. If anything it's a testament to how bad the general WoW populace is.

But this thread is about Roguecraft not Nerf Sap so i'll just leave it at that. I think Happyminti is now playing a warlock on Zuluhed in a guild called <Seraphin>

 

Tzeni

He's on my server, his guild rerolled on zuluhead, but subsequently collapsed (or more accurately, all the good people left), so Minti came back for 1.12 and x-server bgs and is making a new movie.

He was not one of the better geared rogues, his guild was the 3rd-5th most advanced on the server. But true, he wasn't the best rogue on the server, but he was certainly up there. And all the stuff about him not fighting superior opponents has some merit, but in the later nerf sap's he did fight some better people. The only gripe that I (and most other people) have had about him is his spec... prep is a spec that is suited only to the kind of pvp that lends itself to pvp videos. He did make some SF videos after much hasseling, but he clearly prefers the CD-orientated spec.

 

Carnitine

QFT. It's strange that even the people on EJ completely missed the point. I thought it was extremely well done, although 75% of the fight scenes could have been edited out without losing any of the impact.

 

Chimera2402

Loved the first two, this one seemed abit too PvP movie esque to me though.

 

Dakous

I don't think that much could've been cut - I'd be more conserative and say 50%? but on principle, agree.

Something I liked were the solid put ons of the other warlock, the warlock versus rogue (paranoia), and most importantly, the shadowbolt crit deal. Maybe I don't watch enough WoW videos, but I thought the whole four screen gimmick (and picture-in-picture gimmick for the warlock versus rogue) was pretty well done, but if you'd gone that far, wouldn't you beg the question of how to tighten that test up a little more? I appreciate that part of the point is "Oh boy, 5k shadowbolt, here's the actual time required to even get off all those shadowbolts." But... after the first four, maybe it would've been a solid place to tighten up in editing?

Or to borrow a line from Futurama, "Well, it took two hours to write. I thought it'd take as long to act." The shame about editing something into a gold star production is letting go of a lot of time.

But I'm with you and Gokie about the entire thing being an intentional put on and satire. I kinda thought the rogue was mouth breathing...

And the whole paper rock scissors bit should be clipped and made into its own google video for future reference forever. "But when rock hits level sixty, apparently it beats paper and scissors, except scissors is invisible so rock can never find it anyway."

Edit: Just to fess up, I watched the Roguecraft ep 2 for the first time immediately afterwards, so apparently I've jumbled them in my memory.

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Grimmlokk

Dahis has been mentioned. Great mix of gear and skill. Minti is good with multiple people. Shurrik is good stuff for combat people.

Axxel made 2 really good PVP movies. Blue/AV level gear mostly. Dunno if he quit or what, but very under-rated guy. 2nd one here, can't find 1st.

Exid made one movie I know of. R14 gear. He's just good at picking apart multiple opponents. Dismantling of a full group headed down to BRD is textbook ninja killer shit.

Zod. The grand daddy of all rogue PVP movies. Old old stuff. Dual Deathstrikers(before name change). Just roams around BRM ripping people up. Maybe not up to standards of newer stuff, but he was so far ahead of the curve back then it's ridiculous. Note: This is when SF was still giving an extra CP.

And finally, 1.11 Test Server Duels. Just duels from test 1.11. Top geared Rogues fighting top geared(AQ) people pretty much. Paladin in this video is pretty nuts. And the dwarf warrior with DEoI is also impressive. Dahis is in here, Sunken, lot of video makers really. Made by Ming but not all that much of him actually fighting. So don't get scared off. Can't find better version right now.

 

Malan

As someone who is featured (read: ganked) in a couple of Minti's videos, I'll say that they are entertaining at least. But like any other pvp video, he features only the clips where he wins. I think I get absolutely ganked going up the MC chain in Nerf Sap 5 or something like that... you don't see the part after that though where he gets horribly demolished. And a lot of the people that he tears apart in his videos are well known for being terrible at PvP (myself included). But his videos were very well made and are fun to watch.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

malthrin

That's always been one of my favorite scenes from any PvP movie, along with most of Laintime's world pvp footage.

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Aphex-

Sunken's newest movie is pretty good.

 

Boevis

On the google link, check out World of Dishonorcraft. It's by a good enemy of mine and I find it rather amusing.

But yeah, I gotta agree that Roguecraft 1 lacks the humor value of the other 2, only the opening and ending made me chuckle. He also has yet to show the one thing I really would like him to show: A rogue supporting other DPS classes in a battleground to decimate an outnumbering/outgearing force.

 

henaki

Yeah, as often he makes that point, he never did any real demonstrations of Rogues in battlegrounds, you know, doing what they're supposed to do. If he's educating the idiots, he hasn't fully done his job.

Gur - Level 64 Undead Warlock on Hellfire

 

Zoner

Are idiots worth educating?

 

djor

Continuing the derail, anyone know any good sites for getting gg/sc3 tournament (or general high level play) videos?

http://ctprofiles.net/2861210

 

Jedah

Apologies to management, but I can't help myself when fighting games get brought up.

www.a-cho.com and http://game41.web.infoseek.co.jp/movieroom.htm both rotate in alot of GG, along with the usual Street Fighters (2, 3 and A3). SC3 is much harder to find since its not nearly as popular as other fighting games.

 

nickhexum01

Did you miss the end of the video where he makes sure to mention he only went after geared out characters who are known for being the best the server has to offer? What else does he have to do to show he's going after some decent competition. If his competition sucks thats because they are surprised and making mistakes because of the surprise.

I will admit I'd like to see some fights where he gets jumped first and manages to win anyway. You can't really expect to see that in these types of videos. And anyway, Rogues are meant to get the jump in a fight. Its part of their class strength. If you want to see a melee class that does well with no stealth, watch a freakin fury warrior vid.

\"Seriously just delete Druids, Shamans, and Paladins and make a new class called \"Support\". Give them Auras, Blessing, Innervate, MotW, Battle Rez, and a Restoration Tree.\"

 

Jo_

my only complaint is sap.

 

nickhexum01

What? Most of his opponents were decked out lvl 60's. I don't think he fought anyone in that video who didn't at least have a few epics.

\"Seriously just delete Druids, Shamans, and Paladins and make a new class called \"Support\". Give them Auras, Blessing, Innervate, MotW, Battle Rez, and a Restoration Tree.\"

 

tenarius

Soul Calibur 2 had a pretty substantial tournament scene going. I can neither confirm nor deny SC3's, but since I prefer SC2 anyways (fuck the new Voldo) I'm fine with that.

Also, WTB Tekken Tag tournaments. I sat down with a new friend and we both played TT for the first time in a year, it was sublime. He still remembered King's multi chains, I still remembered how to abuse Jin and Heihachi :) One of his roommates was regaling us of how hardcore the arcades in Japan are; complete with regulars and feared masters - he mentioned one guy who would smoke a cigarette while he was playing and just demolish people one-handed.

Edit - and I doubt you need to apologize for derailing this thread from the terribly fascinating discussion about rogue pvp videos. It's not as if threads on these forums ever stay on topic anyways!

 

Tzeni

Ah, you're not that bad, malan!

[<--Faran]

But yea, more on teh point of Minti's opponents and such... All of his 1v1's feature good opponents, at least in the latter videos... and on the off chance that they're not amazing (like Malan here), they're at least decked out. But how do you ask someone to show 2v1's, 3v1's, and yes, even 4v1's where all of their opponents are good? That's just a contridiction of terms... its impossible for a "good" player to lose a 3v1 or worse, and even a 2v1 should be hard to win against even one good opponent.

And I have no idea where you get that he faces people that are less than level 60, the only video I recall that happening is Nerf Sap 1 where minti himself is lvl 50-52.

 

henaki

www.dustloop.com/forums is the best place for guilty gear in english for information and discussion and stuff, theres a seperate section for media. (i'm also rather popular there!) If you live in the NJ/NY area and want to get into the scene I can introduce you to really good people, and you can probably relearn the game with me and my friend if you so please (who happens to be my GM no less!).

soulcalibur.com/forums is pretty much the same deal for soul calibur. i pray to god you dont play the US PS2 version :(
SC2's scene died down pretty quickly once Tekken 5 came out (and was generally considered a widely better game for tournament play after DR came out), SC3 got a B version, but it's only for the Euro, Japanese and Arcade version AFAIK, I'm not sure if the PS2 has a second version or not, but the original PS2 US release is ASS, stay away at all costs because it's balanced horribly and riddled with game breaking bugs (22G).

Gur - Level 64 Undead Warlock on Hellfire